Q
Qononeneote
This program, if it was given the functionality of word, would beat out ANY
word processor of any sort including WORD!
word processor of any sort including WORD!
D
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
except it's not a word processor or word processor replacement - it's a note
taking tool. Making it too word-like makes it slower and harder to use.
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Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/
taking tool. Making it too word-like makes it slower and harder to use.
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Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Microsoft already makes a product with the functionality of Word... <grin>
Diane's right, OneNote is not intended to be a word processor.
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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm
Q
Qononeneote
So? It would still be a note taking tool. Just more features. And harder to
use? Ha, not hard at all. Slower? Maybe.
Its not intended to be a word processor? I agree, but that doesn't mean they
shouldn't make it more functional.
use? Ha, not hard at all. Slower? Maybe.
Its not intended to be a word processor? I agree, but that doesn't mean they
shouldn't make it more functional.
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP
O.K., but by that token Word is a note-taking tool too. You can use Word
to take notes if you want to.
OneNote is simply optimized to a different function and, of course, they
are going to make it more functional as the product matures.
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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm
Q
Qononeneote
I understand. WORD can also be used as a note taking tool. But, I like the
flexibility of ONE NOTE and the functionality of Word.
flexibility of ONE NOTE and the functionality of Word.
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP
I take my notes in OneNote and then copy them to Word to build my finished
documents.
Is there any specific features of Word that you think would be valuable to
OneNote? Realistically Microsoft will never port ALL of the features of
Word to OneNote (or vice versa).
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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm
Q
Qononeneote
" Realistically Microsoft will never port ALL of the features of
Word to OneNote (or vice versa). "
I know.
" I take my notes in OneNote and then copy them to Word to build my finished
documents. "
I print straight from One Note. Because, when I paste from One Note to Word,
sometimes, the formatting gets screwed up in the process and I have to spend
extra time fixing it.
"Is there any specific features of Word that you think would be valuable to
OneNote?"
I like to create my own bullets, insert word art, create tables, format the
text better than what is offered, math operators, create diagrams, among
other things. And if you know how to do ANY of this straight from the program
PLEASE tell me, Thank you.
Word to OneNote (or vice versa). "
I know.
" I take my notes in OneNote and then copy them to Word to build my finished
documents. "
I print straight from One Note. Because, when I paste from One Note to Word,
sometimes, the formatting gets screwed up in the process and I have to spend
extra time fixing it.
"Is there any specific features of Word that you think would be valuable to
OneNote?"
I like to create my own bullets, insert word art, create tables, format the
text better than what is offered, math operators, create diagrams, among
other things. And if you know how to do ANY of this straight from the program
PLEASE tell me, Thank you.
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP
" Realistically Microsoft will never port ALL of the features of
Word to OneNote (or vice versa). "
I know.
Just as Porsche will never make a Boxster that can pull a semi-truck.
I paste into Word because it has more formatting options -- that's what
Word is good at.
Not really. You could create your WordArt in Word and copy/paste it to
OneNote. Diagrams you can create with the pen if you have a Tablet PC.
I think we'll see better tables in a future version of OneNote, same for
math operators and perhaps drawing tools for diagrams and other things. I
think formatting, other than some small niceties perhaps, is a low
priority since OneNote is not intended as a platform for finished product.
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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm
Q
Qononeneote
I agree, formatting text is a low priority but it would be helpful.
"Diagrams you can create with the pen if you have a Tablet PC."
I would love to have a tablet PC. but, they are still comparativly
expensive. You wouldn't have one just lying around your house that I could
have, would you? LOL,. JK
"Diagrams you can create with the pen if you have a Tablet PC."
I would love to have a tablet PC. but, they are still comparativly
expensive. You wouldn't have one just lying around your house that I could
have, would you? LOL,
. JK
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Richard
specific features of Word that you think would be valuable to OneNote?
Absolutely!
a. I'd love to see integration with Draw, so that I could easily sketchup
box and lines diagrams.
b. And, I really need an isometric drawing grid (30 degree/60 degree), to
make it easier to sketch out pseudo-3D drawings
c. and maybe, it would be good to be able to embed any type of object
inside of onenote. In Word, you can do this with Menu|Insert|Object...
R.
Absolutely!
a. I'd love to see integration with Draw, so that I could easily sketchup
box and lines diagrams.
b. And, I really need an isometric drawing grid (30 degree/60 degree), to
make it easier to sketch out pseudo-3D drawings
c. and maybe, it would be good to be able to embed any type of object
inside of onenote. In Word, you can do this with Menu|Insert|Object...
R.
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP
I agree, formatting text is a low priority but it would be helpful.
"Diagrams you can create with the pen if you have a Tablet PC."
I would love to have a tablet PC. but, they are still comparativly
expensive. You wouldn't have one just lying around your house that I
could
have, would you? LOL,
Fraid not.
Averatec makes some very inexpensive Tablets - you canprobably find one for under $1300 if you shop a bit.
But that's still more than free.
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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm
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Erik Sojka (MVP)
"Make it more functional" is a completely different argument than "make it
more like a word processor".
more like a word processor".
E
EMRhelp.org
It would help if MS really outlined what OneNote's vision is.
At present, it represents an non-integrated, standalone program not
tied into Office with any meaning. No Office VBA.
We are told it is there to "collect all your notes" for the information
worker.
Does anyone really use it for anything other than a scratch pad in
meetings ?
C'mon MS tell us what you are going to do in OneNote.
At present, it represents an non-integrated, standalone program not
tied into Office with any meaning. No Office VBA.
We are told it is there to "collect all your notes" for the information
worker.
Does anyone really use it for anything other than a scratch pad in
meetings ?
C'mon MS tell us what you are going to do in OneNote.
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Erik Sojka (MVP)
???
I think it's very clear what the intended use is for OneNote. I think
everyone here would concede that the integration with other Office
applications could be better, and I can't imagine that future versions
won't improve in this area, but I don't see where you think MS hasn't
promoted ON's uses.
As has been mentioned here many times, people use ON for meetings,
research, lists, etc. I use it as my primary workflow every day between
meetings. I keep various lists of "to do" and "to buy" items. I use it
to store 100% of what I need in the various classes I take. Its intended
uses are pretty clear, IMO.
I think it's very clear what the intended use is for OneNote. I think
everyone here would concede that the integration with other Office
applications could be better, and I can't imagine that future versions
won't improve in this area, but I don't see where you think MS hasn't
promoted ON's uses.
As has been mentioned here many times, people use ON for meetings,
research, lists, etc. I use it as my primary workflow every day between
meetings. I keep various lists of "to do" and "to buy" items. I use it
to store 100% of what I need in the various classes I take. Its intended
uses are pretty clear, IMO.
C
Chris H.
Microsoft has already stated the position of OneNote:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/onenote/prodinfo/default.mspx Of course,
some of this varies because digital Ink is available only on a Tablet PC,
but they've pretty well outlined what it is supposed to do.
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
http://www.microsoft.com/office/onenote/prodinfo/default.mspx Of course,
some of this varies because digital Ink is available only on a Tablet PC,
but they've pretty well outlined what it is supposed to do.
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -
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EMRhelp.org
Erik,
You make it sound like the OneNote user base is high.
Sales of OneNote are terribly low.
There is no way Microsoft is happy with OneNote sales.
They must be planning something to make it more useful/popular.
Can you give me any reasons why, for your classes, did you not choose
GoBinder ?
What about OneNote makes it superior to GoBinder. (I dont use it, i
tried it).
You make it sound like the OneNote user base is high.
Sales of OneNote are terribly low.
There is no way Microsoft is happy with OneNote sales.
They must be planning something to make it more useful/popular.
Can you give me any reasons why, for your classes, did you not choose
GoBinder ?
What about OneNote makes it superior to GoBinder. (I dont use it, i
tried it).
E
Erik Sojka (MVP)
Where are you seeing the sales numbers for OneNote?
E
EMRhelp.org
Right from the webpage:
OneNote is supposed to accomplish this ....
"Have one convenient place to capture all of your notes and
information."
- it utterly fails in this regard. With almost no meaningful
integration into Outlook/Word/Access/Excel/Windows File System.
What about my company documents ? Oh, you have to use something else
for that.
What about my appointments ? Oh, use something else
Etc ... etc ...
OneNote is not a convenient place for all my information.
OneNote is supposed to accomplish this ....
"Have one convenient place to capture all of your notes and
information."
- it utterly fails in this regard. With almost no meaningful
integration into Outlook/Word/Access/Excel/Windows File System.
What about my company documents ? Oh, you have to use something else
for that.
What about my appointments ? Oh, use something else
Etc ... etc ...
OneNote is not a convenient place for all my information.
K
Klaas Visser
EMRhelp.org said:
What is "meaningful integration" in your definition? Right now, as far
as I'm concerned, OneNote complements Office reasonably well at the
moment. I'm sure that future versions will have tighter integration,
but it is *not* designed to replace any of the Office applications (and
it shouldn't either).
I don't think it "utterly fails" as a convenient place to capture all
your notes and information. I use it to capture information. If I
then use that information for a document, spreadsheet, database,
contact information, I use the specific tools required. This allows
for modularity and speed.
In my opinion, the OneNote team gave us too much formatting capability,
which is why everyone seems to think it should replace Word or at least
equal it in formatting capability <grin>.
(Although diagramming/Draw capability would be good.)