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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
I have never used any of those terms to describe people who dislike the ribbon. Must be a product of your subconscious, it is certainly not from mine.
I have consistently pointed people to Jensen Harris' blog for a deeper understanding of the rationale behind the Ribbon and how utterly difficult it is to keep adding commands to menu items that have their own menu items, that produce even more menu items.
What I do find inflexible is the opinion that Microsoft should take a step backwards to satisfy the few who find the Ribbon non-intuitive or difficult to manage. For those people, why not stick with what works (Office 2003 or prior) rather than demand that Microsoft bend to your will and produce a retrograde product.
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
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After furious head scratching, kh asked:
| I find it fascianting that so often the response given by MVPs and
| Ribbon advocates is that people who dislike the Ribbon are backward,
| inflexible, or stupid.
|
| The fact is, power users who customized their toolbars in Office XP
| for maximize their efficiency have been screwed over in Office 2007
| because CUSTOMIZATION has been severely limited with the Ribbons. The
| Quick Access bar does allow frequently used items to surface, but it
| doesn't let you customize to the same extent that the Office XP
| toolbars did.
|
| Newbies or people who weren't power users of Office XP will find the
| Ribbon helpful, undoubtedly. But the lowest common denominator is not
| the best approach to software development: properly developed
| software should work as well for newbies as it does for power users.
| The Ribbon fails utterly in this regard.
|
| Power Users, who are not stupid, inflexible, or backward--but who are
| proactive people who have the intelligence and desire to
| customize--have been given fewer customization options in Office
| 2007. Period. And that is insulting.
|
| "Gordon" wrote:
|
|| "Bring back Classic Menus"
||
|||
||| Simple. There is demand for a classic mode as is illustrated by
||| the third party add-ons as anyone with half a brain can see.
|||
||
|| Umm no. There is a "demand" by SOME people - generally those whose
|| brain can't cope with anything different to the way it's always been
|| done.
|| Like you for example.
I have consistently pointed people to Jensen Harris' blog for a deeper understanding of the rationale behind the Ribbon and how utterly difficult it is to keep adding commands to menu items that have their own menu items, that produce even more menu items.
What I do find inflexible is the opinion that Microsoft should take a step backwards to satisfy the few who find the Ribbon non-intuitive or difficult to manage. For those people, why not stick with what works (Office 2003 or prior) rather than demand that Microsoft bend to your will and produce a retrograde product.
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, kh asked:
| I find it fascianting that so often the response given by MVPs and
| Ribbon advocates is that people who dislike the Ribbon are backward,
| inflexible, or stupid.
|
| The fact is, power users who customized their toolbars in Office XP
| for maximize their efficiency have been screwed over in Office 2007
| because CUSTOMIZATION has been severely limited with the Ribbons. The
| Quick Access bar does allow frequently used items to surface, but it
| doesn't let you customize to the same extent that the Office XP
| toolbars did.
|
| Newbies or people who weren't power users of Office XP will find the
| Ribbon helpful, undoubtedly. But the lowest common denominator is not
| the best approach to software development: properly developed
| software should work as well for newbies as it does for power users.
| The Ribbon fails utterly in this regard.
|
| Power Users, who are not stupid, inflexible, or backward--but who are
| proactive people who have the intelligence and desire to
| customize--have been given fewer customization options in Office
| 2007. Period. And that is insulting.
|
| "Gordon" wrote:
|
|| "Bring back Classic Menus"
||
|||
||| Simple. There is demand for a classic mode as is illustrated by
||| the third party add-ons as anyone with half a brain can see.
|||
||
|| Umm no. There is a "demand" by SOME people - generally those whose
|| brain can't cope with anything different to the way it's always been
|| done.
|| Like you for example.