Cannot get form to work on website

[Leah]

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site. I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your directions and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Hi, David ~

Yes, I followed the directions to the letter. The website is
www.advancedparentingconcepts.com

You'd want the "class registration" page

thanks,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site. I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Just did a test submit.
Looks to me like the form itself is fully functional and the confirmation
page is technically functional.
it's just that the Frontpage header and footer text is not rendered
properly.
which isn't is really a "problem" it just looks bad.
so this is a FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE) issue not Publisher.
so... I recommend as a first course of action you put in a order with the
host to reinstall FPSE.
the host support should know that FPSE are easily corrupted, usually from
the user making ftp connections instead of http, and so they should be used
to reinstall requests.
fwiw if they give you any crap my web host recommendation is listed on
www.davidbartosik.com .
if the reinstall fails to clear it up then I can only refer you to post the
url of the form page to the Frontpage forum at
microsoft.public.frontpage.client and ask in that forum what could cause
this issue.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

Yes, I followed the directions to the letter. The website is
www.advancedparentingconcepts.com

You'd want the "class registration" page

thanks,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly
configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for
review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site.
I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top
and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as
my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your
directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[Leah]

Thank you, David. I'll start with Ipowerweb and then go on from there. I
appreciate your advice.

Leah

Just did a test submit.
Looks to me like the form itself is fully functional and the confirmation
page is technically functional.
it's just that the Frontpage header and footer text is not rendered
properly.
which isn't is really a "problem" it just looks bad.
so this is a FrontPage Server Extensions (FPSE) issue not Publisher.
so... I recommend as a first course of action you put in a order with the
host to reinstall FPSE.
the host support should know that FPSE are easily corrupted, usually from
the user making ftp connections instead of http, and so they should be used
to reinstall requests.
fwiw if they give you any crap my web host recommendation is listed on
www.davidbartosik.com .
if the reinstall fails to clear it up then I can only refer you to post the
url of the form page to the Frontpage forum at
microsoft.public.frontpage.client and ask in that forum what could cause
this issue.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

Yes, I followed the directions to the letter. The website is
www.advancedparentingconcepts.com

You'd want the "class registration" page

thanks,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly
configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for
review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site.
I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top
and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as
my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your
directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[Leah]

Hi, again...

David, I tried to find the spot for Frontpage that you recommended,
"microsoft.public.frontpage.client " and I'm having trouble. Could you
provide the specific URL? I would like to contact them to see if they can
help. Thank you,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site. I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...crosoft.public.frontpage.client&lang=en&cr=US

Hi, again...

David, I tried to find the spot for Frontpage that you recommended,
"microsoft.public.frontpage.client " and I'm having trouble. Could you
provide the specific URL? I would like to contact them to see if they can
help. Thank you,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly
configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for
review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site.
I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top
and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as
my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your
directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[Leah]

Thank you! I have posted a question and hope to get this resolved.

You do great work - much more knowledgeable than the ISP support guys.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...crosoft.public.frontpage.client&lang=en&cr=US

Hi, again...

David, I tried to find the spot for Frontpage that you recommended,
"microsoft.public.frontpage.client " and I'm having trouble. Could you
provide the specific URL? I would like to contact them to see if they can
help. Thank you,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly
configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for
review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site.
I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top
and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as
my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your
directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[Leah]

ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't create a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating html...really
messy. The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web
would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the job...FP.

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation as a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've learned the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."

I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond frustrated...

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...crosoft.public.frontpage.client&lang=en&cr=US

Hi, again...

David, I tried to find the spot for Frontpage that you recommended,
"microsoft.public.frontpage.client " and I'm having trouble. Could you
provide the specific URL? I would like to contact them to see if they can
help. Thank you,
Leah

If you are sure you followed all form FAQ's on
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 and properly
configured
the submit button properties on the form, then post the form URL for
review.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I have published my website with Publisher 2003 and using an http site.
I
have a webform that confirms information, but I'm getting boxes at top
and
bottom vs. the "form confirmation" and "return to form" words. I've
followed
all instructions and I'm trying to get this to work using ipowerweb as
my
host. My sister-in-law used Publisher 2002 and followed your
directions
and
it works for her. Can you help?? This is really frustrating!

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

inline...

ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web
irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the job...FP.

the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."

again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done that.

I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond frustrated...

be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Thanks, David... I've asked the host to reconfigure and reinstall, but
probably won't hear anything back until Monday. I'm hoping that will solve
it...my sis-in-law used Pub 2002 (and has essentially the same site
configuration) and it is now working for her - so I'm holding on to that for
hope. While I realize that some of that feedback from FP was opinion...it
also felt a bit like an ad and didn't address my core question. That is the
root of the frustration, really. I'll take your advice and try to see if
more folks post a reply and wait for my ISP to respond. Thank you for your
patience and professionalism.

inline...

ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web
irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the job...FP.

the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."

again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done that.

I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond frustrated...

be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding it. No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu options, so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or 5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered "yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah

inline...

ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web
irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the job...FP.

the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."

again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done that.

I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond frustrated...

be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but so far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or 5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered "yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah

inline...

ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web
irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.

the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."

again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done
that.

I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...

be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall from my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to tell me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub 2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but so far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or 5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered "yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

The version the FPSE is not an issue.
In my experience with hosts.... never ask.... always tell.
Tell them to reinstall.
After all you are paying them.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall from
my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to tell
me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub 2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I
have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a
reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but so
far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding
it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu
options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or
5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered
"yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it
myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind
you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is
for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub
creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import
them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a
paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even
more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Ok, supposedly they will manually uninstall and reinstall my FPSE's within
the next 24 hours. I will keep my fingers crossed, and let you know either
way what happens once I get the email confirmation that they've done what
they've promised.
--
Leah

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall from my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to tell me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub 2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but so far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or 5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered "yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Hi, David ~

Ok, my web host company had not yet uninstalled, reconfigured and
reinstalled the fpse on my account since the request yesterday, so my
patience has worn thin and my thoughts are that this company is
non-responsive. I checked out your site and you recommend webhost4life.com.
Knowing my current issue, do you think that they could support the
program/form I'm using? I know you don't work for them, but if you are
reasonably comfortable they can do it, I may ask if they can test the site on
their end before I make a transfer. By the way, my current host is
Ipowerweb.com, for your records on this type of issue.
--
Leah

The version the FPSE is not an issue.
In my experience with hosts.... never ask.... always tell.
Tell them to reinstall.
After all you are paying them.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall from
my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to tell
me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub 2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I
have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a
reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but so
far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and rebuilding
it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu
options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or
5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered
"yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it
myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested (mind
you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is
for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub
creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just Import
them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a
paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even
more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

They offer a 30 day cancel policy I believe so if you aren't happy you can
cancel. I have all my sites and my clients sites with them and have been
continuously impressed. They always support whatever I want to do. They have
a small $5/month plan that probably meets your needs. If you sign up thru my
sites link I'll get the referral credit. The process would be that you sign
up, then they set up the account and notify you accordingly. You then change
the nameservers with your registrar. It will take a day or two for the
transfer to work thru the internet. During this time you can ftp the site to
a temp url they assign you. Or just wait until you can use http. Once your
domain name is resolving to the new host server then you login into your
account control panel and order FPSE. Then login a little later to check if
it shows it done. Then you http publish and you're good to go.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

Ok, my web host company had not yet uninstalled, reconfigured and
reinstalled the fpse on my account since the request yesterday, so my
patience has worn thin and my thoughts are that this company is
non-responsive. I checked out your site and you recommend
webhost4life.com.
Knowing my current issue, do you think that they could support the
program/form I'm using? I know you don't work for them, but if you are
reasonably comfortable they can do it, I may ask if they can test the site
on
their end before I make a transfer. By the way, my current host is
Ipowerweb.com, for your records on this type of issue.
--
Leah

The version the FPSE is not an issue.
In my experience with hosts.... never ask.... always tell.
Tell them to reinstall.
After all you are paying them.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try
other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall
from
my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be
on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they
are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to
tell
me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub
2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah


:

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I
have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a
reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but
so
far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done
so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the
site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and
it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and
rebuilding
it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the
FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu
options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or
5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they
supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered
"yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a
solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it
myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested
(mind
you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is
for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it
doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a
web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub
creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just
Import
them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a
paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there
done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even
more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and
rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Hi, David ~

I contacted the webhost4life group, and my only hesitation is that they are
unwilling to test the files on their end to make sure that they work - prior
to me signing up for an account. While they offer a money-back guarantee, it
does not cover the set-up costs or the domain name transfer costs.
Alentus.com, however, is willing to test my files prior to me signing up with
them. I'm going to try that first, simply because I don't wish to be back in
the game of spending more time and money if I don't have to be.

Incidentally, thought you'd appreciate this article that was on msn.com today:
http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusin...rketing/building_a_web_site_the_easy_way.mspx

Thanks,
--
Leah

They offer a 30 day cancel policy I believe so if you aren't happy you can
cancel. I have all my sites and my clients sites with them and have been
continuously impressed. They always support whatever I want to do. They have
a small $5/month plan that probably meets your needs. If you sign up thru my
sites link I'll get the referral credit. The process would be that you sign
up, then they set up the account and notify you accordingly. You then change
the nameservers with your registrar. It will take a day or two for the
transfer to work thru the internet. During this time you can ftp the site to
a temp url they assign you. Or just wait until you can use http. Once your
domain name is resolving to the new host server then you login into your
account control panel and order FPSE. Then login a little later to check if
it shows it done. Then you http publish and you're good to go.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

Ok, my web host company had not yet uninstalled, reconfigured and
reinstalled the fpse on my account since the request yesterday, so my
patience has worn thin and my thoughts are that this company is
non-responsive. I checked out your site and you recommend
webhost4life.com.
Knowing my current issue, do you think that they could support the
program/form I'm using? I know you don't work for them, but if you are
reasonably comfortable they can do it, I may ask if they can test the site
on
their end before I make a transfer. By the way, my current host is
Ipowerweb.com, for your records on this type of issue.
--
Leah

The version the FPSE is not an issue.
In my experience with hosts.... never ask.... always tell.
Tell them to reinstall.
After all you are paying them.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try
other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall
from
my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be
on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they
are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to
tell
me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub
2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah


:

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I
have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a
reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but
so
far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done
so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the
site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and
it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and
rebuilding
it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the
FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu
options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or
5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they
supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered
"yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a
solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it
myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested
(mind
you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is
for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it
doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a
web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub
creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just
Import
them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a
paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there
done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even
more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and
rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Leah]

Hi, again ~

I had requested that Alentus.com test my files to see if they could publish
it and they could not do it. Here is the message I received:
"Hello Leah,
Sorry, but I can't get it to publish correctly from MS Publisher.
It would be best if you purchase FrontPage 2003 and converted it from MS
Publisher to FrontPage. If you already have an older version of FrontPage or
any version of MS Office, you can just purchase the FrontPage 2003 Upgrade
(which is actually the whole product).
The site we were trying to publish to from MS Publisher is:
http://sharepoint.alentus.com/pubtest
Username: alentus-sp\trialuser
Password: sharepoint
While this is a SharePoint 2003 sub-web, it is a FrontPage enabled sub-site
that you can use to try and publish to. Also browse to the site in Internet
Explorer and take a look at SharePoint's features as it has some integration
cabilities with MS Office. As the level of integration with MS Office and
SharePoint 2003 depends on the version of Office you have, I have attached a
Microsoft document that explains what you can do with x version of MS Office
and SharePoint 2003."

Before I go and purchase an upgrade (third person to recommend it to me) -
can you think of anything else I can try? I am now wondering it if is indeed
a Publisher issue vs fpse's. My web host company finally uninstalled my
fpse's, reconfigured them manually, and reinstalled them. It still did not
remedy the problem. I still get those baffling rectangles on the form
confirmation page.

Please let me know if you have any further suggestions I can try to do prior
to spending more money for something I shouldn't have to buy.

Thank you very much,


--
Leah

Hi, David ~

I contacted the webhost4life group, and my only hesitation is that they are
unwilling to test the files on their end to make sure that they work - prior
to me signing up for an account. While they offer a money-back guarantee, it
does not cover the set-up costs or the domain name transfer costs.
Alentus.com, however, is willing to test my files prior to me signing up with
them. I'm going to try that first, simply because I don't wish to be back in
the game of spending more time and money if I don't have to be.

Incidentally, thought you'd appreciate this article that was on msn.com today:
http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusin...rketing/building_a_web_site_the_easy_way.mspx

Thanks,
--
Leah

They offer a 30 day cancel policy I believe so if you aren't happy you can
cancel. I have all my sites and my clients sites with them and have been
continuously impressed. They always support whatever I want to do. They have
a small $5/month plan that probably meets your needs. If you sign up thru my
sites link I'll get the referral credit. The process would be that you sign
up, then they set up the account and notify you accordingly. You then change
the nameservers with your registrar. It will take a day or two for the
transfer to work thru the internet. During this time you can ftp the site to
a temp url they assign you. Or just wait until you can use http. Once your
domain name is resolving to the new host server then you login into your
account control panel and order FPSE. Then login a little later to check if
it shows it done. Then you http publish and you're good to go.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

Ok, my web host company had not yet uninstalled, reconfigured and
reinstalled the fpse on my account since the request yesterday, so my
patience has worn thin and my thoughts are that this company is
non-responsive. I checked out your site and you recommend
webhost4life.com.
Knowing my current issue, do you think that they could support the
program/form I'm using? I know you don't work for them, but if you are
reasonably comfortable they can do it, I may ask if they can test the site
on
their end before I make a transfer. By the way, my current host is
Ipowerweb.com, for your records on this type of issue.
--
Leah


:

The version the FPSE is not an issue.
In my experience with hosts.... never ask.... always tell.
Tell them to reinstall.
After all you are paying them.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I'm trying to have them do just that, but they keep asking me to try
other
things and they haven't responded to me about it (reinstalling and
reconfiguring FPSE), either. I have tried to uninstall and reinstall
from
my
account, but that isn't doing the trick. So, I agree that it has to be
on
their end. I'll ask them again. I just wanted to make sure that they
are
running the correct version in the first place. They are trying to
tell
me
that it is the fact that they are running 2002 FPSE and I used Pub
2003.
Your answer helps me to be a bit more assertive with them...thanks
--
Leah


:

Evidently the FP MVP's haven't encountered this issue any more then I
have.
The version of FPSE is not the issue.
The conclusion reached is that the FPSE is corrupted and needs a
reinstall.
I've stated that a few times and asked you if that has been done, but
so
far
haven't seen you address it.
Until you tell the host to reinstall FPSE and confirm they have done
so I
can do nothing further.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

Hi, David ~

The host got back to me and had me try to make changes live to the
site
from
FrontPage (all I have is FP 2000). I tried what they suggested and
it
didn't
work. I even experimented with deleting the form page and
rebuilding
it.
No
luck. There haven't been any other suggestions I could try from the
FP
forum
(the last one suggested I tried, but wasn't given the same menu
options,
so I
couldn't do it).

Any other suggestions? I know that the host is using FPSE 5.1 or
5.2...
Shouldn't that work with Pub 2003? I had asked them if they
supported
FPSE
3.0 or later when I signed up for their service, and they answered
"yes."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know that there is a
solution
here
somewhere...I just don't have the technical expertise to find it
myself.

Thank you!
--
Leah


:

inline...


ok...now I'm frustrated. Here is what the FP forum suggested
(mind
you
that
I've spent a lot of money and time with Publisher 2003): "Pub is
for
print,
FP is for Webs. Although Pub will generate html "pages" it
doesn't
create
a
Web, and more importantly it does a crummy job of generating
html...really
messy.

true and valid points.

The time you'd have to clean up Pub pages and making it into a
web

irrelevant

would be better spent learning how to use the right tool for the
job...FP.


the posters opinion

Basically...start over, use FP to create a Web...use your Pub
creation
as
a
design guide...you can still use any images from pub...just
Import
them
into
FP first. It really shouldn't take too long to do - once you've
learned
the
basics AND get used to the fact that you're not working towards a
paper
format."


again opinion based, and easier said then done. I've been there
done
that.


I would really prefer not to duplicate the process and spend even
more
money
(not to mention that I think that FP is not user friendly and
rather
embarassingly primitive-looking)...any thoughts? I'm beyond
frustrated...


be patient, see if it gets other responses.
don't take opinions personally.
did the host reinstall the FPSE and did you test again?

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com