Patrick Schmid said:
I had Office 2007 beta on XP Pro. I didn't like Office 2007 because I
detest gigantic icons so although I kept it for a long time, I seldom
used
it but it did honor my Verdana font and the sizes I have chosen for menu,
file, etc. At least it did for Word and that was the only part of Office
2007 I used much (and I thought Word 2002 far superior because it doesn't
have gigantic icons and has neat drop down menus instead of making me
constantly switch screens back and forth). The GUI for Word 2007 is awful
but it did use Verdana. Verdana is the font I use for everything. I can't
read any other fonts easily.
Are you running high contrast mode?
I promise that the UI of Office 2007 certainly uses Segoe UI on XP and
Vista. I don't know how you could have ended up using Verdana quite
honestly. The Segoe font might have just looked like Verdana to you? (It
did evolve during the beta, so the final font is different from the ones
in the beta).
So, is this rigidity only for Vista? Are you saying if I got Vista I
could
not use Verdana as the UI font of my choice? I will not be able to get
Vista
if that is the case. This is an Accessibility issue if you are right!
Maybe I am misunderstanding because I cannot imagine Microsoft stopping
those of us with nonperfect eyesight from using the system font and font
size of our choice just because we get Vista! Surely you are not saying
that
one cannot change system fonts and font sizes in Vista in Display
Properties/Appearance/Advanced. How could that be? Windows Classic Style
is
still available isn't it? (Who would use anything else? I hate XP style
and
will hate Vista style I'm sure also. I want Classic style only). Are you
also saying that in Vista you cannot go into Display Properties and
change
the DPI?
I am not saying anything about Vista. All I am saying is that Office 2007
uses Segoe UI. I haven't bothered upgrading to Vista yet, so I don't know
whether Windows Classic Style is still there. I wouldn't be surprised
though, if it isn't.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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No, I am not using High Contrast Mode. I use Display
I like to use 98SE Desktop themes on XP and I have to overide the fonts and
font sizes for every theme.
I also beta tested IE7 and the reason I did was because Microsoft had
promised that it would give us Text Zoom like Firefox and Opera and
SeaMonkey have had for a long time. Microsoft's idea of Text Zoom was
nothing like what I have in Firefox, Seamonkey and Opera. But in these other
browsers, Text Zoom is somewhat passe anyhow because these browsers now give
us the ability to set a minimum default font size so I no longer need Text
Zoom.
I was so disappointed because their disregard for accessibility issues in
IE7 made it so that I couldn't use IE7 any better than I can IE6. My other
browsers allow me to set a default minimum font size. Then, for instance,
text in a text reply box on a forum is the same size as the text in the
forum messages. With IE, even IE7 with Text Zoom (which isn't really Text
Zoom as it is in Opera and Firefox), the text in a forum reply box is tiny.
I can read it, but I spend 10 hours a day on the computer and I would have
terrible headaches, burning eyes, etc. if I had to strain all day to read
what I was typing in the text box. That is just one example of how IE7 did
not deliver the promise that Microsoft gave us. I complained right away
after I got the beta and Microsoft told me they would fix it...but they did
not grasp the problem! They asked me which web sites had this problem!
Geez....it is all websites that have forum reply boxes have the problem
because it is an IE problem! It is not just text in text boxes either. IE
displays a web site with a variety of text sizes on the site and so Text
Zoom enlarges the text but the smallest text is still not enlarged enough
unless other text is gigantic. IE needs to allow the user to set a default
minimum text size as other browsers do so that all text on the web page is
the same readable size. This is a much better way to do it as then there is
no gigantic text on the page which happens in IE. And no matter what the
text zoom in IE nothing changes the size of the text in a text reply box
unless the rest of the page is such gigantic text that you can't read
anything else except the text reply box.
I kept the IE7 beta about three months and I couldn't use it so I went back
to IE6 and thanked my lucky stars that Firefox and Opera care about those of
us with less than perfect eyesight.
The irony to me with Office in particular is that I have no difficulty
making out small icons and I far prefer very small ones. I just can't read
small text on a flat panel digital LCD at 1280x1024. Even using Windows DPI
at 120 is not enough. I cannot use IE to read a web page (much less type in
a forum reply box) at 96 DPI even with IE set on "largest" for text. I can
set IE on "medium" or "large", depending on the web page, when using 120 DPI
and that is ok but IE doesn't enlarge all the text on the page big enough
(without enlarging other text too much) because I can't set a default
minimum text size. Why Microsoft cannot understand such a simple concept
(especially when all they need do is go look at their rival browsers) is
mind boggling.
I'll shut up now. I got off onto IE7 and this is a forum for Office.