AFAIK, this NG is neutral on the subject of top vs bottom
posting. Originally I did bottom post to the OP, and it all
fit well on on one page. And then everyone else bottom
posted on that to fit what was already there
If you would really like it, I will top post from now on-
heck, I'll spend the 10 minutes to reformat this thread for
you so you can read it
:I don't even bother to read them
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: | >> : > "P@tty Ayers" <
[email protected]>
wrote in
: | >> : > message
: | >> : > :
: | >> message
: | >> : > : : | >> : > : >
: | >> : > : > "P@tty Ayers"
: | >> in
: | >> : > : > message
: | >> : | >> : > : > :
: | >> : > : > : "Mike Mueller" <
[email protected]>
wrote in
: | >> : > message
: | >> : > : > :
: | >> : > : > : >> Mike Mueller" wrote:
: | >> : > : > : >> Best solution: don't use hover buttons!
: | >> : > : > : >
: | >> : > : > : >
: | >> : > : > : > "P@tty Ayers" replied:
: | >> : > : > : > Or make ones that don't use JavaScript OR
Flash:
: | >> : > : > : >
: | >> : > : >
: | >> : >
: | >>
http://projectseven.com/tutorials/css/uberlinks/index.htm
: | >> : > : > : >
: | >> : > : > : >
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: | >> : > : > : > Ummmm, they are using javascript on that
one...
: | >> : > : > :
: | >> : > : > :
: | >> : > : > : They are most definitely *not*. Not sure
where you
: | >> got
: | >> : > : > that idea. Maybe you
: | >> : > : > : thought I was referring to the site's
menus? I was
: | >> : > : > pointing to the tutorial
: | >> : > : > : beginning on that page on how to create
navigation
: | >> : > links -
: | >> : > : > I thought that
: | >> : > : > : was obvious.
: | >> : > : >
: | >> : > : > I got the idea from that tutorial, I thought
it was
: | >> : > obvious
: | >> : > : > when they said you needed their javascript
file that
: | >> : > : > javascript was actually needed for the page
to work.
: | >> : > : >
: | >> : > : > "Download the assets
: | >> : > : > To complete the project, you'll need the
image files
: | >> : > that
: | >> : > : > will comprise the rollover effects and the
Uberlink
: | >> : > : > JavaScript file."
: | >> : > :
: | >> : > : Ok, you're right, that *tutorial* does use some
: | >> : > JavaScript. The navigation
: | >> : > : bar technique itself does *not* need to.
They're just
: | >> : > using JS to determine
: | >> : > : "the current page" for the purpose of the
tutorial.
: | >> : > :
: | >> : > : My point: navigation bars can easily be made
which
: | >> look
: | >> : > like buttons, use
: | >> : > : graphics, have a "hover" effect and a "you are
here"
: | >> : > effect, but use *only*
: | >> : > : HTML and CSS. They also can be made into
: | >> : > server-side-includes, and still
: | >> : > : have the "you are here" effect working. The
markup is
: | >> : > valid, and they're
: | >> : > : easy to maintain. That's all.
: | >> : >
: | >> : > I just read what they had, I did not disect as I
don't
: | >> have
: | >> : > the need- my menu bars are all CSS defined lists
: | >> already.
: | >> : >
: | >> : > I have been playing with a 'variant' of image
swapping,
: | >> : > using CSS to change from a backgroound image to a
: | >> background
: | >> : > color on the hover function. The foreground is a
simple
: | >> GIF
: | >> : > with transparency. Fine in IE7, but not in other
: | >> browsers
: | >> : > yet. Ideas?
: | >> : >
: | >> : >
http://lfd.lannonfire.com/forums/bog/debs3.htm
: | >> :
: | >> : I'm not big on dissecting either.
But it's
common to
: | >> use background
: | >> : images which switch to other background images on
hover,
: | >> and it works fine
: | >> : in all the major browsers.
: | >>
: | >>
: | >> I'm trying something a little different though, not
using
: | >> javascript to do the swap of images. Normal
background is an
: | >> image (of a color gradient), and the link is another
image
: | >> (gif with link text as transparent), On hover, CSS is
being
: | >> used to change to a background color, with no
background
: | >> image
: | >
: | > No JavaScript!! Just CSS and HTML and the a:hover
pseudoclass, and it
: | > should work fine in all the major browsers.
: | >
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