default bullet

[lindalou]

Immediately as I exit. And if I have added what I have done as a named
style, if I click to apply that style, I get the same thing--a single-level,
black-bullet list.

When does the bullet formatting go wrong? Immediately as you exit the
multilevel list dialog box? When you reopen the document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

I am having the same problem. I did the following, which is from another
post, and it doesn't work:
The principles still apply, but the methods are a bit different. To apply
bullet formatting to a paragraph, you can apply the built-in List Bullet
style. Use the Apply Styles pane to do that: Press Ctrl+Shift+S. In the
"Style name" box, type List Bullet, and then click Apply. You can modify
the
bulleted style the same way you modify any style, for example, via the
Styles task pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S).

If you want a multilevel list of bullets, set it up via Home tab |
Multilevel List | Define New List Style. For each level, pick a bulleted
symbol in the list box (or click New Bullet to specify a custom one). You
can still assign each level of the list to a paragraph style via the
Modify
Multilevel List dialog box (which can be displayed via Format button,
Numbering).
--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Every time I do all the work of formatting it via the dialog boxes, it
reverts all bullets to the black bullet (yes, there IS a default bullet,
and
that is it) and I lose all my indents.

In my opinion, this is just one more instance of horrible Microsoft
programming. I am no dummy, and Word 2000 worked just fine, I am
thoroughly
capable using Publisher 2007, but Word 2007 is a piece of junk! I have
disabled the automatic bulleted lists, I have tried using "Save as a
Microsoft [insert your favorite version] document," all to no avail. I
have
accessed the dialog box via the way outlined above, via styles and via
something else. NOTHING WORKS!!!

Sorry, what I mean is this: When one of our users wants to make a list
they
usually select the text or place the cursor in it and then either
right-click
and choose Bullet list or choose Bullet list from the Paragraph section
in
the ribbon. And that's when the black dot (default) bulllet list appears.
Most of them doesn't know how or wants to choose a specific Style from
the
style sections of the ribbon or a pane to format their documents. It
should
be like that, I know.

Fredrik

:

What do you mean by "the default bullet"? Word really doesn't have
anything
like that. After you've changed, say, the List Bullet style you will
have to
explicitly apply it to the text that you want bulleted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



I´ve tried the Normal.dotm too. Same problem. I´ve also tried making
a new
template Letter.dotx and applying the changes there. But with the
same
problems opening a new document based on that specific template. The
default
bullet is the old black dot.

Fredrik

:

Note that if you actually have a file called normal.dotx (with the
dotX
extension), that is *not* the blank document template, which has the
dotM
extension.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




I´m trying to change it in Normal.dotx both in the Ctrl+Shift and
Alt+Ctrl+Shift panes, being careful checking the "New documents
based
on
this
template" box. It works in the actual Normal.dotx but not when I
open a
new
document based on the template.

Fredrik

:

As I wrote, the List Paragraph style cannot be used to modify
settings
for
numbers or bullets.

How are you changing the List Bullet style in normal.dotm?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Hi!

I´ve got the same problem as Robin. I´ve tried changing List
Paragraph,
List
Bullet and even List in Normal.dotx to my own fine square, red
dot
but
when I
open a New document the (right Robin) ugly little black dot is
there
again.

Fredrik

:

Thanks but nope. Went into the normal.dotm and made the
change to
the
list
bullet. This seemed to work ok in the normal.dotm document,
but
when
I
saved, close and opened a new document, the little black dot
raised
its
ugly
head!

:

Which style are you changing? If you are trying to change
List
Paragraph, I
would advise against it. For some reason, List Paragraph
behaves
unpredictably (especially with indentation).

If you cannot successfully transfer List Bullet or a custom
paragraph
style
to the attached template, try opening the template directly
(via
the
Open
dialog box) and make the modification directly. Does that
help?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Thanks Stefan. I get it to work in a doc (pops up with
"List
Paragraph"
when
I insert a bullet and then CTRL+SHFT+S). However, when I
close
this
word
doc
and open a new one, the black dot returns... This is with
the
"New
documents
based on this template" ticked.

:

Well, the idea is to apply the bullet formatting to text
by
applying
a
paragraph style modified to include the desired bullet
formatting.

For example, you can use one of Word's built-in bullet
styles,
List
Bullet,
as a starting point. In the Apply Styles pane
(Ctrl+Shift+S),
type
List
Bullet. Click the Modify button. In the Modify Style
dialog
box,
click
Format, and then click Numbering. Click the Bullets tab.
Choose
the
desired
bullet (or use Define New Bullet if you don't see the
bullet
you
want).
When
you are done click OK to confirm the settings (which
takes you
back
to
the
Modify Style dialog box).

To transfer the modified style to the attached template,
use
the
"New
documents based on this template" option in the Modify
Style
dialog
box
before clicking OK.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message
Thanks, but that does not change the default bullet.
When I
do
this, I
need
to insert a new bullet (which will be a black dot) and
then
manually
change
the style, right?

:

Hi. I am really struggling to get my default bullets
right
for
Word
2007.
I
get the bullet to look right (its a fancy wingding
star as
prescribed
by
our
marketing guys) but I cannot change the default via
the
style
menu's
"new
documents based on this template". When I click on a
new
bullet,
it
reverts
back to the round dot. Please can someone give me
step by

 

[lindalou]

I wrote that I got the list to work. Yes, I got it to work in exactly one
document. When I copy that bulleted list over to a new doc, it keeps the
style. But as soon as I save it to the list library and click on the properly
formatted it list, it converts the list to a two-level (instead of 5-level)
list.

Immediately as I exit. And if I have added what I have done as a named
style, if I click to apply that style, I get the same thing--a single-level,
black-bullet list.

When does the bullet formatting go wrong? Immediately as you exit the
multilevel list dialog box? When you reopen the document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

I am having the same problem. I did the following, which is from another
post, and it doesn't work:
The principles still apply, but the methods are a bit different. To apply
bullet formatting to a paragraph, you can apply the built-in List Bullet
style. Use the Apply Styles pane to do that: Press Ctrl+Shift+S. In the
"Style name" box, type List Bullet, and then click Apply. You can modify
the
bulleted style the same way you modify any style, for example, via the
Styles task pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S).

If you want a multilevel list of bullets, set it up via Home tab |
Multilevel List | Define New List Style. For each level, pick a bulleted
symbol in the list box (or click New Bullet to specify a custom one). You
can still assign each level of the list to a paragraph style via the
Modify
Multilevel List dialog box (which can be displayed via Format button,
Numbering).
--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Every time I do all the work of formatting it via the dialog boxes, it
reverts all bullets to the black bullet (yes, there IS a default bullet,
and
that is it) and I lose all my indents.

In my opinion, this is just one more instance of horrible Microsoft
programming. I am no dummy, and Word 2000 worked just fine, I am
thoroughly
capable using Publisher 2007, but Word 2007 is a piece of junk! I have
disabled the automatic bulleted lists, I have tried using "Save as a
Microsoft [insert your favorite version] document," all to no avail. I
have
accessed the dialog box via the way outlined above, via styles and via
something else. NOTHING WORKS!!!
:

Sorry, what I mean is this: When one of our users wants to make a list
they
usually select the text or place the cursor in it and then either
right-click
and choose Bullet list or choose Bullet list from the Paragraph section
in
the ribbon. And that's when the black dot (default) bulllet list appears.
Most of them doesn't know how or wants to choose a specific Style from
the
style sections of the ribbon or a pane to format their documents. It
should
be like that, I know.

Fredrik

:

What do you mean by "the default bullet"? Word really doesn't have
anything
like that. After you've changed, say, the List Bullet style you will
have to
explicitly apply it to the text that you want bulleted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



I´ve tried the Normal.dotm too. Same problem. I´ve also tried making
a new
template Letter.dotx and applying the changes there. But with the
same
problems opening a new document based on that specific template. The
default
bullet is the old black dot.

Fredrik

:

Note that if you actually have a file called normal.dotx (with the
dotX
extension), that is *not* the blank document template, which has the
dotM
extension.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




I´m trying to change it in Normal.dotx both in the Ctrl+Shift and
Alt+Ctrl+Shift panes, being careful checking the "New documents
based
on
this
template" box. It works in the actual Normal.dotx but not when I
open a
new
document based on the template.

Fredrik

:

As I wrote, the List Paragraph style cannot be used to modify
settings
for
numbers or bullets.

How are you changing the List Bullet style in normal.dotm?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Hi!

I´ve got the same problem as Robin. I´ve tried changing List
Paragraph,
List
Bullet and even List in Normal.dotx to my own fine square, red
dot
but
when I
open a New document the (right Robin) ugly little black dot is
there
again.

Fredrik

:

Thanks but nope. Went into the normal.dotm and made the
change to
the
list
bullet. This seemed to work ok in the normal.dotm document,
but
when
I
saved, close and opened a new document, the little black dot
raised
its
ugly
head!

:

Which style are you changing? If you are trying to change
List
Paragraph, I
would advise against it. For some reason, List Paragraph
behaves
unpredictably (especially with indentation).

If you cannot successfully transfer List Bullet or a custom
paragraph
style
to the attached template, try opening the template directly
(via
the
Open
dialog box) and make the modification directly. Does that
help?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



Thanks Stefan. I get it to work in a doc (pops up with
"List
Paragraph"
when
I insert a bullet and then CTRL+SHFT+S). However, when I
close
this
word
doc
and open a new one, the black dot returns... This is with
the
"New
documents
based on this template" ticked.

:

Well, the idea is to apply the bullet formatting to text
by
applying
a
paragraph style modified to include the desired bullet
formatting.

For example, you can use one of Word's built-in bullet
styles,
List
Bullet,
as a starting point. In the Apply Styles pane
(Ctrl+Shift+S),
type
List
Bullet. Click the Modify button. In the Modify Style
dialog
box,
click
Format, and then click Numbering. Click the Bullets tab.
Choose
the
desired
bullet (or use Define New Bullet if you don't see the
bullet
you
want).
When
you are done click OK to confirm the settings (which
takes you
back
to
the
Modify Style dialog box).

To transfer the modified style to the attached template,
use
the
"New
documents based on this template" option in the Modify
Style
dialog
box
before clicking OK.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message
Thanks, but that does not change the default bullet.
When I
do
this, I
need
to insert a new bullet (which will be a black dot) and
then
manually
change
the style, right?

:

Hi. I am really struggling to get my default bullets
right
for
Word
2007.
I
get the bullet to look right (its a fancy wingding
star as
prescribed
by
our
marketing guys) but I cannot change the default via
the
style
menu's
"new

 

[Stefan Blom]

Are you saying that you cannot change levels either? If so, it seems as if
you have created a single-level list rather than a multi-level one.

Did you follow the instructions to link each level of the list style to a
paragraph style?

Note that copying bulleted (and numbered) lists has been difficult in Word
since (at least) Word 97. Instead, you should create your (bulleted and
numbered) lists in a template, and then create documents from that template.
This is the easiest way to (re-)use style-based formatting in Word. Also,
once you have a template, you can easily reformat an existing document B by
inserting it into a newly created document A (which is based on your
template).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

I wrote that I got the list to work. Yes, I got it to work in exactly one
document. When I copy that bulleted list over to a new doc, it keeps the
style. But as soon as I save it to the list library and click on the
properly
formatted it list, it converts the list to a two-level (instead of
5-level)
list.

Immediately as I exit. And if I have added what I have done as a named
style, if I click to apply that style, I get the same thing--a
single-level,
black-bullet list.

When does the bullet formatting go wrong? Immediately as you exit the
multilevel list dialog box? When you reopen the document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



I am having the same problem. I did the following, which is from
another
post, and it doesn't work:
The principles still apply, but the methods are a bit different. To
apply
bullet formatting to a paragraph, you can apply the built-in List
Bullet
style. Use the Apply Styles pane to do that: Press Ctrl+Shift+S. In
the
"Style name" box, type List Bullet, and then click Apply. You can
modify
the
bulleted style the same way you modify any style, for example, via
the
Styles task pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S).

If you want a multilevel list of bullets, set it up via Home tab |
Multilevel List | Define New List Style. For each level, pick a
bulleted
symbol in the list box (or click New Bullet to specify a custom one).
You
can still assign each level of the list to a paragraph style via the
Modify
Multilevel List dialog box (which can be displayed via Format button,
Numbering).
--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Every time I do all the work of formatting it via the dialog boxes,
it
reverts all bullets to the black bullet (yes, there IS a default
bullet,
and
that is it) and I lose all my indents.

In my opinion, this is just one more instance of horrible Microsoft
programming. I am no dummy, and Word 2000 worked just fine, I am
thoroughly
capable using Publisher 2007, but Word 2007 is a piece of junk! I
have
disabled the automatic bulleted lists, I have tried using "Save as a
Microsoft [insert your favorite version] document," all to no avail.
I
have
accessed the dialog box via the way outlined above, via styles and
via
something else. NOTHING WORKS!!!
:

Sorry, what I mean is this: When one of our users wants to make a
list
they
usually select the text or place the cursor in it and then either
right-click
and choose Bullet list or choose Bullet list from the Paragraph
section
in
the ribbon. And that's when the black dot (default) bulllet list
appears.
Most of them doesn't know how or wants to choose a specific Style
from
the
style sections of the ribbon or a pane to format their documents. It
should
be like that, I know.

Fredrik

:

What do you mean by "the default bullet"? Word really doesn't have
anything
like that. After you've changed, say, the List Bullet style you
will
have to
explicitly apply it to the text that you want bulleted.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



I´ve tried the Normal.dotm too. Same problem. I´ve also tried
making
a new
template Letter.dotx and applying the changes there. But with
the
same
problems opening a new document based on that specific template.
The
default
bullet is the old black dot.

Fredrik

:

Note that if you actually have a file called normal.dotx (with
the
dotX
extension), that is *not* the blank document template, which
has the
dotM
extension.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message

I´m trying to change it in Normal.dotx both in the Ctrl+Shift
and
Alt+Ctrl+Shift panes, being careful checking the "New
documents
based
on
this
template" box. It works in the actual Normal.dotx but not
when I
open a
new
document based on the template.

Fredrik

:

As I wrote, the List Paragraph style cannot be used to
modify
settings
for
numbers or bullets.

How are you changing the List Bullet style in normal.dotm?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message
Hi!

I´ve got the same problem as Robin. I´ve tried changing
List
Paragraph,
List
Bullet and even List in Normal.dotx to my own fine square,
red
dot
but
when I
open a New document the (right Robin) ugly little black
dot is
there
again.

Fredrik

:

Thanks but nope. Went into the normal.dotm and made the
change to
the
list
bullet. This seemed to work ok in the normal.dotm
document,
but
when
I
saved, close and opened a new document, the little black
dot
raised
its
ugly
head!

:

Which style are you changing? If you are trying to
change
List
Paragraph, I
would advise against it. For some reason, List
Paragraph
behaves
unpredictably (especially with indentation).

If you cannot successfully transfer List Bullet or a
custom
paragraph
style
to the attached template, try opening the template
directly
(via
the
Open
dialog box) and make the modification directly. Does
that
help?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message
Thanks Stefan. I get it to work in a doc (pops up
with
"List
Paragraph"
when
I insert a bullet and then CTRL+SHFT+S). However,
when I
close
this
word
doc
and open a new one, the black dot returns... This is
with
the
"New
documents
based on this template" ticked.

:

Well, the idea is to apply the bullet formatting to
text
by
applying
a
paragraph style modified to include the desired
bullet
formatting.

For example, you can use one of Word's built-in
bullet
styles,
List
Bullet,
as a starting point. In the Apply Styles pane
(Ctrl+Shift+S),
type
List
Bullet. Click the Modify button. In the Modify Style
dialog
box,
click
Format, and then click Numbering. Click the Bullets
tab.
Choose
the
desired
bullet (or use Define New Bullet if you don't see
the
bullet
you
want).
When
you are done click OK to confirm the settings (which
takes you
back
to
the
Modify Style dialog box).

To transfer the modified style to the attached
template,
use
the
"New
documents based on this template" option in the
Modify
Style
dialog
box
before clicking OK.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



message
Thanks, but that does not change the default
bullet.
When I
do
this, I
need
to insert a new bullet (which will be a black dot)
and
then
manually
change
the style, right?

:

Hi. I am really struggling to get my default
bullets
right
for
Word
2007.
I
get the bullet to look right (its a fancy
wingding
star as
prescribed
by
our
marketing guys) but I cannot change the default
via
the
style
menu's
"new