Help with Publisher 2007 - images

[BlissBeader]

I am also having a problem with pictures not showing up on my web site:
www.blissdesigns.net.
I’ve been reading posts & googling for over a week, trying to figure this out.

One thing that seems different for me is the Publish to the Web window that
opens under File. There is no “Save Inâ€. It does open folders – but “My
Network Places†isn’t an option anywhere. I have tried saving it in many
locations – currently on my Desktop. The only options that I have are File
Name - and it has index, so I’ve left it at that. The next is Save as type
: with Web Page, Filtered as the only option.
When I it Save, the files do show up on my desktop.

I’ve then been using FileZilla to transfer the files to my web server. They
show up there, but all aimed at my C drive.
I also can use "upload" from my File Manager at Surf Speedy, my server.

Using Publisher 2007, Vista, IE7. I’ve had a web page for years, using Surf
Speedy Site Builder. But just bought a new computer and Publisher was
installed on it. It was so easy & fun to build a newer/better web site,
just having problems getting it up. The site looks perfect when I Preview
it, and when I click on index on my desktop. The site opens in IE, with this
location:
C:\Users\Anne\Desktop\index.htm
I did use Design Checker.
Can you help me, please?

 

[DavidF]

You get the gold start today! Thank your for taking the time to describe in
detail what you have done and tried, and all the relevant information. It
makes it so much easier to help when we know all this detail.

Your work flow of Publish to the Web and directing your web output to your
desktop is appropriate given you are using Vista and IE7. With the
introduction of IE7 the old description of how to ftp your files to your
host does not work well. And it is good that you have chosen to use
FileZilla. Ultimately you will find this much easier than the other possible
ways of ftp uploading.

I think I see two errors. When you publish to the web and direct the web
files to your desktop, you should get an index.htm file (your home page) and
an index_files folder that contains all the supporting graphics and the
other pages of your website. You need to upload the index_files folder to
the same place on your host (the root directory) where you uploaded the
index.htm file.

The other error I think you have made is that you have put at least your
navbar on a Master Page in Publisher. This would account for the links
pointing back to your C drive on your local computer. Go to View > Master
Page and move all that content to your main page, republish and upload both
the index.htm file and the index_files folder and see if that doesn't fix
your site. Unfortunately the Master Page feature in Publisher does not work
consistently or correctly, and should only be used for print publications,
not webs.

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano [MS MVP]]

images files are not in the correct folder, this is where one is

http://www.blissdesigns.net/index_files/image23431.jpg

 

[BlissBeader]

Thank you for responding!
OK - I clicked on View> Master page, and the page is empty. I can't see how
to move content at all, nor can I delete the Master Page (not clickable).
I've looked in Publisher Help, and don't see how to do it.

I did upload both the index_files & index.htm to / in FileZilla. When I
look in my File Manager at SurfSpeedy, I see all the files. They're just
aimed at my C.

and to Rob: how do I put images anywhere? Images were added by clicking
Insert>Images> from file. Is there another way, or something more I should
do?

Anne

 

[BlissBeader]

forgot to mention: My sister, who is better at this than I, went in to my
File Manager and deleted all the x images from my front page and added the
words Under Construction, since I've been missing out on some business. I
haven't tried to upload since, as I haven't changed anything yet.
Anne

 

[DavidF]

If you go to View > Master Page and there is no content, then that is not
the problem.

To review, when you Publish to the Web you will get a dialog box. In the
left pane, under Save In (at least in XP) you have a number of options
including the Desktop option. Under file name just use the index.htm
default. This is the procedure you follow, correct?

Click on your navbar > format > navigation bar properties. Select the home
page link > modify link. Make sure that in the next dialog box that Place in
This Document is selected and that you home page is page 1. ok. Then select
the other links to your other pages and make sure that they also point to
Place in this doc, and the appropriate page.

Does this make any difference? If it does, good. If it doesn't I am not sure
what you are doing because I cannot recreate your problem.

If you are still stumped, then I will be willing to look at your file to see
if I can spot anything else. Please upload a copy of your Pub file to
www.yousendit.com and send a link to the file to your own email. Yousendit
is free and you do not need to sign up or anything, and you won't get
spammed from using the service. Then come back and post the link to the file
here so I and others who might be able to spot the problem can download and
test it. If your Pub file is really big because of pictures and such, please
make a copy and delete some or most of the pictures to reduce the file size
to less than 5 megs, but leave all the pages in the file. Even 5 megs will
take me about 25 minutes to download on this slow dial-up connection.

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano [MS MVP]]

ALL your images are actually there in the index_files folder (which for some
reason is browsable and should not be) but anyway they are there you just
have to fix the links on the pages.

--
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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression

 

[BlissBeader]

Thank you,

You send it Link: size 2.86
http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d4OGNlZDVrYURIRGc9PQ

I deleted most of the images, but left at least 1 per page. Many of the
images are colors. There are 17 pages, # 17 doesn't link to the nav bar.
It's a link I will send for wholesale orders, so different pricing.

yes, I Published to the Web per instructions. All my pages point to Place
in this doc.

I update my site often, changing my schedule especially as new events get
booked, deleting the ones that have been done. And updating images with the
latest pieces.
Thank you,
Anne

 

[BlissBeader]

I posted a link to Yousendit.com. I'd hate to have to go into the code every
time I make changes to my web site, which is often. Let's see if looking at
my .pub file helps. Otherwise, I know where to access the code in my file
manager, but am not sure how to fix it. Thanks.
Anne

 

[Rob Giordano [MS MVP]]

Wait for DavidF to reply. I don't use Publisher for websites that often so
I'm not sure why it's placing your image files in the wrong folder.

I downloaded your actual site and it works fine locally, it's just a matter
of why when you publish or save maybe that they are being misplaced or
creating incorrect links.

BTW...a viewer should not be able to browse you index_files folder, it
should be changed to non-browsable OR you should put a dummy index.htm page
in that folder

--
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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression

 

[DavidF]

Anne,

I was able to download the file, and reproduce the error. I haven't figured
out how to fix it yet, but hopefully will have time later today to work on
it.

DavidF

 

[BlissBeader]

Thank you. Any help would be appreciated.
Anne

Anne,

I was able to download the file, and reproduce the error. I haven't figured
out how to fix it yet, but hopefully will have time later today to work on
it.

DavidF

 

[BlissBeader]

Thank you,
I'll wait to see if David can find anything. I can't find anything that
tells how to "de-browser" my index_files folder.
Anne

 

[DavidF]

Anne,

This has proven more challenging than I hoped. I have actually spent quite a
bit of time on your file, and have found a number of errors, but nothing
that directly creates the problem with the links pointing to the C drive.

The only fix I have found thus far is to copy and paste the content from
your primary pages into a new publication, and create a new navbar...and
that is not a sufficient fix. I suspect that the navbar is corrupted
somehow, or perhaps the whole publication, but I haven't been able to narrow
down the exact cause. I will continue to work with it, and report back. Stay
tuned.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

You might want to change the login method in FileZilla to Normal from
Anonymous. I think that will keep people from being able to see the contents
of your index_files folder.

DavidF

 

[BlissBeader]

Do you want me to do this now, and re-load on Filezilla? Or wait to see if
you can find anything else? I'm so sorry that this is taking so much of your
time. I do appreciate every minute.
Anne

 

[DavidF]

This is a separate issue from the links pointing to the C drive, I believe.
So you may as well wait until we figure out why the links are not working
correctly.

DavidF

 

[Rob Giordano [MS MVP]]

Yikes.

WHERE should Publisher's web main index page reside when published to the
web?


--
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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression

 

[DavidF]

Anne,

I have not been able to figure out how or why your navigation system was
corrupted, nor how to fix your original Pub file. While I might eventually
get there, I assume that you are probably wanting to get your site up and
working as soon as possible. So, the only fix I could come up with in the
short term was to rebuild your Pub file.

Here is a link to the file on yoursendit:
http://rcpt.yousendit.com/655523286/561ee54d331568db34e5205ca5b27979

What I did was copy and paste your content to a new Pub doc and install a
new navbar. It is not exactly as you sent it and is only a starting place
for you to rebuild. Colors will need to be changed, background installed,
links added and modified, formatting tweaked, but the 17 pages do work in
both IE and FF as does the main navbar. I also fixed or tweaked a few things
as I experimented and tested your original file.

The Bliss Designs image at the top of every page was not consistent on each
page, and in fact created some uploading problems. I replaced each of these
with one version of the image that seemed most correct. Some of your
originals were stretched out and distorted.

Your whole banner combination of the Bliss Designs image and the two color
diagonal background was just slightly off the top of the page. I moved them,
and tweaked the way they were arranged slightly. The colors will need to be
changed, and you may need to adjust the layout a bit. Use the arrow key to
nudge each element where you want them.

On your Products List page you had some empty objects elements hiding behind
the 'more details' box and other places. I deleted those. You also had some
of the individual product descriptions where you had grouped all the design
elements together. You can do this to move things around and keep them in
relation to each other, or to copy and paste as a group, but you should
always ungroup them once you get your layout correct. Otherwise the links
you have in those product descriptions to the detail pages will not work in
FF. (Grouping can also convert text to an image in FF.) You will need to
reinsert those hyperlinks...I didn't have time to install those or many of
the other cross page links that didn't survive my copy and pasting to a new
Pub doc.

I also did not give your navbar links or the cross page links custom file
names. My goal was to get the navbar working, but once again I didn't have
time to customize it as you had it. Here is where you should be extra
careful. It was probably in working with the navbar and the navbar wizard
that the navbar became corrupt and started pointing to the C drive.

Before you start customizing the links or inserting the cross browser links,
do a web page preview in IE. Mouseover the main navbar links one at a time.
Look in the status bar at the bottom of the IE window and you will see
'index_files/PageXXX.htm' in the status bar from the home page. And if you
don't see the status bar at the bottom of the IE window, then go to View >
Status bar and make sure it is clicked. Anyway, if you click and go to
another page on your site, and then mouseover the main navbar, you will see
just 'PageXXX.htm' and '../index.htm' for the home page. Don't forget that
those pages will be contained in the 'index_files' folder, so the links will
be different than from the home page. (That was another error in your
original Pub file...you had not linked your home page navbar button to the
first page.) These are relative links. If you preview your pages with FF
(and you should), you will see absolute links (show a full path) that point
back to your C drive. Don't freak out...they will point to your domain name
when you actually upload the files...just one of the ways Publisher produces
different code for non-IE browsers.

Anyway, each time you insert a link, or give a page a custom .htm file name,
be sure to do a web page preview and confirm that the link still works.
Don't save the changes until you test the changes. Back up often, and if you
are going to add pages or make any substantial change to the publication,
keep a backup copy of your file in case something goes wrong. I know this is
tedious, but rebuilding your Pub files is even more tedious. And, as you
rebuild and test as you go, you will spot problems immediately, and won't
have so much trouble finding errors after the fact.

So there you go. I didn't have time to do more, but this should get you
going. Sorry I wasn't able to find an easy way to fix your original Pub
file, but it is what it is... Good luck.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

I am not sure I understand your question? There is no change in where you
upload the index.htm file or the index_files folder...they both go in the
root directory. My point is that it was in the process of uploading that she
set the index_files folder such that you could see the contents. I could be
wrong...wouldn't be the first time, but I THINK that it is a "permissions"
issue, and can be solved by changing the setting in FileZilla as I
indicated.

Public download sites on the Internet use anonymous FTP. If you don't want
people to have access to the index_files folder, then you don't use
anonymous FTP.... I think <g>.

DavidF