I WANT MY FP2000 BACK

S

Smart-Alex

Re: Norton AV abled/disabled during the Office Update. I THINK I had it
disabled but....I'm not 100% sure.
As far as shutting it off, I know enough to disconnect from the internet but
IF Norton is the culprit in my FP2003 freezing I can't be disconnected all
the time while working on FP. Others depend on my shared connection.

Someone asked if I was logged on as an Administrator. The answer is yes.

I think we're pretty much at a dead end with this...other than maybe
re-installing the Office Update and ensuring that Norton is off while I do.
 
S

Steve Easton

You mentioned earlier that you "kept the old tower."
Is this a new machine with a clean install of XP, or an upgrade to XP from an older operating
System??

--
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
M

Murray

I can't be disconnected all the time while working on FP

Nobody suggested such a ridiculous thing. It was suggested that you make
sure your AV was disabled when installing FP.

Personally, I would never use Norton for anything, but that is just me.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Norton definitely sucks, but there aren't a whole lot of choices out there
for anti-virus and firewall security. So I have it installed, but have
disabled ALL of the automatic features that it has. Unfortunately, it took
me several hours to figure out how to disable some of them, which Symantec,
in its' "infinite wisdom" has decided I shouldn't have control over, even
though it's my machine... Required several registry hacks, deleting some
DLLs, etc, but it now does WHAT I want it to WHEN I want it to, and it's not
a problem.

The irony of all this is that applications that use the Internet, like
FrontPage, are often clobbered by these well-meaning protectors that we have
developed over the years. Yet, people demand that their software works
easily without any interference from them. So, we end up having these 2
opposite requirements:

1. Our computer must be safe from intrusion without our knowing how or why.
2. Our software must be easy to use, requiring little or no knowledge of how
or why.

And the hackers and virus-writers are constantly testing the limits of the
current protection, thereby creating a vicious cycle from which there seems
to be no means of escape. If we disable our protection software, our other
software requires a greater level of understanding to use. If we enable our
protection software, our other software is often affected in such a way that
without a greater level of understanding, we are unable to use it. And of
course, our protection software, like the Patriot Act, tends to be difficult
machiavellian, making it difficult to tweak without a greater level of
understanding.

No solutions here. Just observations.
 
S

Steve Easton

I use AVG by Grisoft.
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php
Does exactly what it is supposed to do and nothing else, and it *does not* commandeer your machine.
Even ran it on a PII 166mhz 64mb RAM machine and you couldn't tell it was even running.
imho the best AV program there is.

--
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
S

Smart-Alex

It's basically a new machine....new Motherboard etc...It's a fresh install
of XP.

As for Norton AV... Kevin mentioned that Norton comandeer's your machine.
I'm with Kevin 100% with his view of this.Thats' my biggest beef with MOST
applications, Microsoft being the worst. We are able to build faster and
faster computer with more and more sophisticated software. I suggest that we
make what we have work more efficiently first. Why build a faster car if the
wheels keep falling off?! (thats my soapbox for the day)

With Norton, I thought I had disabled most automatic goodies...but maybe I
missed something. Also, let me ask again......should I RE-INSTALL the Office
SP (ensuring that Norton is disabled?) Should I UN-install the Office2003
Service Pack? Remember I have Office 2000 SR-1 Professional. installed over
Office 97. Under that there are 8 updates. (this is viewed in my Conrol
Panel Installed Programs)

Is this making sense?

Alex
 
S

Steve Easton

I would leave the office 2003 SP installed. It only installed the portions of itself that apply to
FP 2003. It "inventories" the computer and then determines which parts to install.

Microsoft has a tool named QuickSlice that you can download and run which will show you what running
process is hogging the CPU cycles and causing the machine to freeze. It displays the info in a bar
graph. You can launch the app and minimize it, then maximize it as the machine slows down or locks
up.
The download / install file is available here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/faq.mspx

It says it is for Windows 2000 and I have used it, but I have *never* ran it on an XP machine. I
**think** it **should** run ok..
Hopefully it will work in XP and can show you where the problem is.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
S

Steve Easton

If you try QuickSlice, be advised that the top process or PID 0 is the "system idle" process and
will always run at 100% when nothing is going on.


--
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
W

Wes

Steve,

Task Manager in xp can do that.

Steve Easton said:
I would leave the office 2003 SP installed. It only installed the portions
of itself that apply to
FP 2003. It "inventories" the computer and then determines which parts to
install.

Microsoft has a tool named QuickSlice that you can download and run which
will show you what running
process is hogging the CPU cycles and causing the machine to freeze. It
displays the info in a bar
graph. You can launch the app and minimize it, then maximize it as the
machine slows down or locks
up.
The download / install file is available here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/faq.mspx

It says it is for Windows 2000 and I have used it, but I have *never* ran
it on an XP machine. I
**think** it **should** run ok..
Hopefully it will work in XP and can show you where the problem is.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer
 
S

Steve Easton

Does it show each process, or just total CPU usage like the one in 2K Pro??

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
S

Steve Easton

Thanks Ronx. My clipboard must have been confused.

;-)


--
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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
S

Smart-Alex

Thanks Steve...
Re...The QuickSlice...how is that different than looking at the Windows Task
Manager Performance Graph. I often do that and see what's eating up my CPU
and RAM. EXAMPLE: I have a Labels Application from SoftKey (Labels Unlimited
1996) that I love but...anytime I move a graphic or even text within that
program...the CPU goes to 100% and stays there and everything locks.

I will try QuickSlice though.

So far, FP2003 has been behaving....but then I haven't been using it as
much. (I've been too busy writing to this forum!:)

Alex
 
S

Smart-Alex

I tried the Quick Slice but it doesn't really give me any clues. I have had
FP2003 lock up...the hourglass on forever...and nothing in QS looked
abnormal.

After I get out of Front Page, it won't re-open. I also discovered that
other applicatiosn wont; open either. THEN I tried to re-start it keepings
"saving my settings" forever.

I said this was last post here because I am convinced that this is a Windows
XP problem and I think I should go in that direction.

This post sure generated a LOT of responses. I guess I know how to get
people's attention now!

Thank you for the help and advice

Alex
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

I'm sure It's WinXP SP2 that's causing the problems ;-)

--
===
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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===

| I tried the Quick Slice but it doesn't really give me any clues. I have
had
| FP2003 lock up...the hourglass on forever...and nothing in QS looked
| abnormal.
|
| After I get out of Front Page, it won't re-open. I also discovered that
| other applicatiosn wont; open either. THEN I tried to re-start it keepings
| "saving my settings" forever.
|
| I said this was last post here because I am convinced that this is a
Windows
| XP problem and I think I should go in that direction.
|
| This post sure generated a LOT of responses. I guess I know how to get
| people's attention now!
|
| Thank you for the help and advice
|
| Alex
|
|
|
|
|
| | > If you try QuickSlice, be advised that the top process or PID 0 is the
| > "system idle" process and
| > will always run at 100% when nothing is going on.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > .......................with a computer
| >
| > | >> It's basically a new machine....new Motherboard etc...It's a fresh
| >> install
| >> of XP.
| >>
| >> As for Norton AV... Kevin mentioned that Norton comandeer's your
machine.
| >> I'm with Kevin 100% with his view of this.Thats' my biggest beef with
| >> MOST
| >> applications, Microsoft being the worst. We are able to build faster
and
| >> faster computer with more and more sophisticated software. I suggest
that
| >> we
| >> make what we have work more efficiently first. Why build a faster car
if
| >> the
| >> wheels keep falling off?! (thats my soapbox for the day)
| >>
| >> With Norton, I thought I had disabled most automatic goodies...but
maybe
| >> I
| >> missed something. Also, let me ask again......should I RE-INSTALL the
| >> Office
| >> SP (ensuring that Norton is disabled?) Should I UN-install the
Office2003
| >> Service Pack? Remember I have Office 2000 SR-1 Professional. installed
| >> over
| >> Office 97. Under that there are 8 updates. (this is viewed in my Conrol
| >> Panel Installed Programs)
| >>
| >> Is this making sense?
| >>
| >> Alex
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> | >> > You mentioned earlier that you "kept the old tower."
| >> > Is this a new machine with a clean install of XP, or an upgrade to XP
| >> > from
| >> > an older operating
| >> > System??
| >> >
| >> > --
| >> > Steve Easton
| >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> > 95isalive
| >> > This site is best viewed............
| >> > .......................with a computer
| >> >
| >> > | >> >> Wow! This has created more controversy that the hanging chads in
| >> >> Florida!
| >> >>
| >> >> To answer some questions. Yes, I do have Norton AV. I don't have it
| >> >> set
| >> >> up
| >> >> for auto-scan though.
| >> >> Don't have Quick Books but I do have Quicken Home & Biz
| >> >> Definitely have Acrobat and Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer.
| >> >> This give any clues.?
| >> >>
| >> >> As far as getting rid of any programs in the background I do that
all
| >> >> the
| >> >> time. I also set up msconfig not to load that stuff and I often go
to
| >> >> Processes to see what's running.
| >> >>
| >> >> As far as Norton is concerned...with the number o virus attacks I
get
| >> >> a
| >> >> day,
| >> >> I wouldn't want to turn it off for second.
| >> >>
| >> >> I'm not sure where to go from here.
| >> >>
| >> >> Alex
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >> | >> >> > Nobody is saying it's your fault. Just that you may be
unknowingly
| >> >> > running something that is conflicting. Going back to 2000 makes
as
| >> >> > much
| >> >> > sense as using DOS 1.0
| >> >> >
| >> >> > When the problem occurs, open your task bar and see what processes
| >> >> > are
| >> >> > running. (there WILL be stuff running) Try turning off anything
| >> >> > suspicious one at a time. If FP starts working, you have found
the
| >> >> > culprit. You can then uninstall the conflicting program or
uncheck
| >> >> > it
| >> >> > in
| >> >> > the startup setting in start/run/msconfig.
| >> >> >
| >> >> > | >> >> >> Thanks to those who offered to assist. Of course I did expect at
| >> >> >> least
| >> >> >> one "it's your fault" response.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> First of all, I am very careful about what I run in he
background.
| >> >> >> I'm
| >> >> >> a
| >> >> >> tidy nut. I usually have nothing running in the BG.
| >> >> >> The OS is Win XP-SP2. The processor is a AMD2600+ with 512 of
RAM.
| >> >> >> I
| >> >> >> have about 100G of HD space.
| >> >> >> FP2003 is an upgrade from FP2000.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> What other applications do I have. Many...but none are running in
| >> >> >> the
| >> >> >> BG.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> I was not running PWS.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> And I know.... yanking the plug out is no help..but I have been
so
| >> >> >> frustrated, it's surprising I didn't fling the whole CPU at the
| >> >> >> wall!
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> Thanks to Steve..I will try his suggestion.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> I STILL didn't get an answer regarding the fact that I bought and
| >> >> >> paid
| >> >> >> for something that doesn't work. Why do software suppliers feel
| >> >> >> that
| >> >> >> backing a product is not a responsibility? There IS a cavalier
| >> >> >> attitude
| >> >> >> here. It's that attitude that the technically uneducated
customer
| >> >> >> is
| >> >> >> an
| >> >> >> idiot and as a result they cause all their own problems. If this
| >> >> >> was a
| >> >> >> CAR, I'd be dead by now!
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> Alex
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> | >> >> >>> Alex,
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>> I really hate to say it, but FP03 works on most computers.
| >> >> >>> Usually if there is an problem it is related to the OS or to
| >> >> >>> conflicts with other applications. What processes do you
| >> >> >>> have running the background? What other applications are
| >> >> >>> installed on this machine? Did you upgrade from FP00 to FP03
| >> >> >>> or what?
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>> Aside from your system hangs, the other issues you have
| >> >> >>> brought here are Hover Buttons and tables. Neither of which
| >> >> >>> is an FP issue, it is the clients machine.
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>> Mike
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>> | >> >> >>> :I have HAD it with FP2003 problems!! I bought 2003 about
| >> >> >>> three weeks ago
| >> >> >>> : and
| >> >> >>> : have been trying to re-build our web site with it since I
| >> >> >>> first got it....as
| >> >> >>> : some
| >> >> >>> : people on this forum may have noticed with my MANY
| >> >> >>> requests for help!
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> : I'm just about over the edge with this thing. FP2000,
| >> >> >>> although it was a
| >> >> >>> : simpler application was at least stable. With FP2003, I
| >> >> >>> have had one crash
| >> >> >>> : or freeze-up after
| >> >> >>> : another after another after another. Several times a day,
| >> >> >>> when I begin to
| >> >> >>> : make change or add a
| >> >> >>> : link to a page, suddenly the hourglass comes on and STAYS
| >> >> >>> on. One time I
| >> >> >>> : actually went for a half hour coffee break and it was
| >> >> >>> STILL on when I
| >> >> >>> : returned. I can't
| >> >> >>> : close it without Ctrl-Alt-Del. THEN it won't reopen. ALSO,
| >> >> >>> my computer won't
| >> >> >>> : shut down. It gives me
| >> >> >>> : the NEVER ENDING message "Saving Your Settings". I have to
| >> >> >>> yank the plug
| >> >> >>> : outta the wall to get it to shut down!!
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> : I seriously don't want to fool around with this nonsense.
| >> >> >>> I paid for a
| >> >> >>> : product. for which I am not at all happy. I want and need
| >> >> >>> some satisfaction
| >> >> >>> : from Microsoft. Who do I talk to get this resolved? I am
| >> >> >>> also a little tired
| >> >> >>> : of being treated with a cavalier attitude as though I
| >> >> >>> created the problem. I
| >> >> >>> : bought it. I installed it. I expect it to work, first time
| >> >> >>> and all the time.
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> : By the way, I have done all the Detect and Repair and all
| >> >> >>> the other "fix-it"
| >> >> >>> : routines.
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> : Alex
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>> :
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>>
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >
| >> >> >
| >> >>
| >> >>
| >> >
| >> >
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Yep. Many issues with SP2, but very hard to diagnose, depending on all the
proper preparation taken, and countless other things.
--
===
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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| That would be a different forum, right? 8)
|
| --
| Murray
|
| | > I'm sure It's WinXP SP2 that's causing the problems ;-)
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > ===
| >
| > | > | I tried the Quick Slice but it doesn't really give me any clues. I
have
| > had
| > | FP2003 lock up...the hourglass on forever...and nothing in QS looked
| > | abnormal.
| > |
| > | After I get out of Front Page, it won't re-open. I also discovered
that
| > | other applicatiosn wont; open either. THEN I tried to re-start it
| > keepings
| > | "saving my settings" forever.
| > |
| > | I said this was last post here because I am convinced that this is a
| > Windows
| > | XP problem and I think I should go in that direction.
| > |
| > | This post sure generated a LOT of responses. I guess I know how to get
| > | people's attention now!
| > |
| > | Thank you for the help and advice
| > |
| > | Alex
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > If you try QuickSlice, be advised that the top process or PID 0 is
| > the
| > | > "system idle" process and
| > | > will always run at 100% when nothing is going on.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Steve Easton
| > | > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | > 95isalive
| > | > This site is best viewed............
| > | > .......................with a computer
| > | >
| > | > | > | >> It's basically a new machine....new Motherboard etc...It's a fresh
| > | >> install
| > | >> of XP.
| > | >>
| > | >> As for Norton AV... Kevin mentioned that Norton comandeer's your
| > machine.
| > | >> I'm with Kevin 100% with his view of this.Thats' my biggest beef
with
| > | >> MOST
| > | >> applications, Microsoft being the worst. We are able to build
faster
| > and
| > | >> faster computer with more and more sophisticated software. I
suggest
| > that
| > | >> we
| > | >> make what we have work more efficiently first. Why build a faster
car
| > if
| > | >> the
| > | >> wheels keep falling off?! (thats my soapbox for the day)
| > | >>
| > | >> With Norton, I thought I had disabled most automatic goodies...but
| > maybe
| > | >> I
| > | >> missed something. Also, let me ask again......should I RE-INSTALL
the
| > | >> Office
| > | >> SP (ensuring that Norton is disabled?) Should I UN-install the
| > Office2003
| > | >> Service Pack? Remember I have Office 2000 SR-1 Professional.
| > installed
| > | >> over
| > | >> Office 97. Under that there are 8 updates. (this is viewed in my
| > Conrol
| > | >> Panel Installed Programs)
| > | >>
| > | >> Is this making sense?
| > | >>
| > | >> Alex
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> | > | >> > You mentioned earlier that you "kept the old tower."
| > | >> > Is this a new machine with a clean install of XP, or an upgrade
to
| > XP
| > | >> > from
| > | >> > an older operating
| > | >> > System??
| > | >> >
| > | >> > --
| > | >> > Steve Easton
| > | >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > | >> > 95isalive
| > | >> > This site is best viewed............
| > | >> > .......................with a computer
| > | >> >
| > | >> > | > | >> >> Wow! This has created more controversy that the hanging chads in
| > | >> >> Florida!
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> To answer some questions. Yes, I do have Norton AV. I don't have
| > it
| > | >> >> set
| > | >> >> up
| > | >> >> for auto-scan though.
| > | >> >> Don't have Quick Books but I do have Quicken Home & Biz
| > | >> >> Definitely have Acrobat and Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer.
| > | >> >> This give any clues.?
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> As far as getting rid of any programs in the background I do
that
| > all
| > | >> >> the
| > | >> >> time. I also set up msconfig not to load that stuff and I often
go
| > to
| > | >> >> Processes to see what's running.
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> As far as Norton is concerned...with the number o virus attacks
I
| > get
| > | >> >> a
| > | >> >> day,
| > | >> >> I wouldn't want to turn it off for second.
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> I'm not sure where to go from here.
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> Alex
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >>
| > | >> >> | > | >> >> > Nobody is saying it's your fault. Just that you may be
| > unknowingly
| > | >> >> > running something that is conflicting. Going back to 2000
| > makes
| > as
| > | >> >> > much
| > | >> >> > sense as using DOS 1.0
| > | >> >> >
| > | >> >> > When the problem occurs, open your task bar and see what
| > processes
| > | >> >> > are
| > | >> >> > running. (there WILL be stuff running) Try turning off
anything
| > | >> >> > suspicious one at a time. If FP starts working, you have
found
| > the
| > | >> >> > culprit. You can then uninstall the conflicting program or
| > uncheck
| > | >> >> > it
| > | >> >> > in
| > | >> >> > the startup setting in start/run/msconfig.
| > | >> >> >
| > | >> >> > | > | >> >> >> Thanks to those who offered to assist. Of course I did expect
| > at
| > | >> >> >> least
| > | >> >> >> one "it's your fault" response.
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> First of all, I am very careful about what I run in he
| > background.
| > | >> >> >> I'm
| > | >> >> >> a
| > | >> >> >> tidy nut. I usually have nothing running in the BG.
| > | >> >> >> The OS is Win XP-SP2. The processor is a AMD2600+ with 512
of
| > RAM.
| > | >> >> >> I
| > | >> >> >> have about 100G of HD space.
| > | >> >> >> FP2003 is an upgrade from FP2000.
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> What other applications do I have. Many...but none are
running
| > in
| > | >> >> >> the
| > | >> >> >> BG.
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> I was not running PWS.
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> And I know.... yanking the plug out is no help..but I have
been
| > so
| > | >> >> >> frustrated, it's surprising I didn't fling the whole CPU at
the
| > | >> >> >> wall!
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> Thanks to Steve..I will try his suggestion.
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> I STILL didn't get an answer regarding the fact that I bought
| > and
| > | >> >> >> paid
| > | >> >> >> for something that doesn't work. Why do software suppliers
feel
| > | >> >> >> that
| > | >> >> >> backing a product is not a responsibility? There IS a
cavalier
| > | >> >> >> attitude
| > | >> >> >> here. It's that attitude that the technically uneducated
| > customer
| > | >> >> >> is
| > | >> >> >> an
| > | >> >> >> idiot and as a result they cause all their own problems. If
| > this
| > | >> >> >> was a
| > | >> >> >> CAR, I'd be dead by now!
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> Alex
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >>
| > | >> >> >> | > | >> >> >>> Alex,
| > | >> >> >>>
| > | >> >> >>> I really hate to say it, but FP03 works on most computers.
| > | >> >> >>> Usually if there is an problem it is related to the OS or to
| > | >> >> >>> conflicts with other applications. What processes do you
| > | >> >> >>> have running the background? What other applications are
| > | >> >> >>> installed on this machine? Did you upgrade from FP00 to FP03
| > | >> >> >>> or what?
| > | >> >> >>>
| > | >> >> >>> Aside from your system hangs, the other issues you have
| > | >> >> >>> brought here are Hover Buttons and tables. Neither of which
| > | >> >> >>> is an FP issue, it is the clients machine.
| > | >> >> >>>
| > | >> >> >>> Mike
| > | >> >> >>>
| > | >> >> >>> | > | >> >> >>> :I have HAD it with FP2003 problems!! I bought 2003 about
| > | >> >> >>> three weeks ago
| > | >> >> >>> : and
| > | >> >> >>> : have been trying to re-build our web site with it since I
| > | >> >> >>> first got it....as
| > | >> >> >>> : some
| > | >> >> >>> : people on this forum may have noticed with my MANY
| > | >> >> >>> requests for help!
| > | >> >> >>> :
| > | >> >> >>> : I'm just about over the edge with this thing. FP2000,
| > | >> >> >>> although it was a
| > | >> >> >>> : simpler application was at least stable. With FP2003, I
| > | >> >> >>> have had one crash
| > | >> >> >>> : or freeze-up after
| > | >> >> >>> : another after another after another. Several times a day,
| > | >> >> >>> when I begin to
| > | >> >> >>> : make change or add a
| > | >> >> >>> : link to a page, suddenly the hourglass comes on and STAYS
| > | >> >> >>> on. One time I
| > | >> >> >>> : actually went for a half hour coffee break and it was
| > | >> >> >>> STILL on when I
| > | >> >> >>> : returned. I can't
| > | >> >> >>> : close it without Ctrl-Alt-Del. THEN it won't reopen. ALSO,
| > | >> >> >>> my computer won't
| > | >> >> >>> : shut down. It gives me
| > | >> >> >>> : the NEVER ENDING message "Saving Your Settings". I have to
| > | >> >> >>> yank the plug
| > | >> >> >>> : outta the wall to get it to shut down!!
| > | >> >> >>> :
| > | >> >> >>> : I seriously don't want to fool around with this nonsense.
| > | >> >> >>> I paid for a
| > | >> >> >>> : product. for which I am not at all happy. I want and need
| > | >> >> >>> some satisfaction
| > | >> >> >>> : from Microsoft. Who do I talk to get this resolved? I am
| > | >> >> >>> also a little tired
| > | >> >> >>> : of being treated with a cavalier attitude as though I
| > | >> >> >>> created the problem. I
| > | >> >> >>> : bought it. I installed it. I expect it to work, first time
| > | >> >> >>> and all the time.
| > | >> >> >>> :
| > | >> >> >>> : By the way, I have done all the Detect and Repair and all
| > | >> >> >>> the other "fix-it"
| > | >> >> >>> : routines.
| > | >> >> >>> :
| > | >> >> >>> : Alex
| > | >> >> >>> :
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Smart-Alex

I know I know...you thought you heard this last from me but just wanted to
share this info.

I got really pissed today and started uninstalling crap like a madman, after
NOTHING would start and the computer wouldn't even shut down.

I got rid of the entire MS Office Suite...including that lame update but
kept FP2003. So far, it has been running like a charm. Next, I'm blowing out
SP2...even if I have to reinstall WIN-XP.

LESS is MORE (someone please tell Bill Gates)

Alex....happy at last.
 
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briang959

Smart-Alex said:
*One time I actually went for a half hour coffee break and it wa
STILL on when I returned....

Alex *

This is a little late, but I want an application to where you work.
I'd love to be able to take half hour coffee breaks. : ) I'm jus
being a smarta$$


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briang95
 

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