M
Murray
As suggested in my first post.
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Paul
Murray said:It validates but it incurs a SE penalty.
HI! what do you mean by a panalty?
Paul
K
Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]
Mike Mueller said:I still think you should do the page as the non-js-enabled
version, and use a js redirect if js was available/enabled
I agree.
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Paul
Kathleen said:I agree.
You both miss the point. this is about what if the user enters in through a
bookmark. Then what do you do?
my first page does redirect the user to another page. but what if the user
bookmarded the main page?.
Paul
M
Mike Mueller
Have you ever checked to see how many people have bookmarked
your page?
: Murray wrote:
: > Yes, but why bother?
: >
: >
: > : >> Murray wrote:
: >>> The server cannot know if the client has js enabled,
you know?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> Paul wrote:
: >>>>> HI! I use the following to redirect the user to
another page if they
: >>>>> do have JavaScript turned on but it will not
validate at w3c.org with
: >>>>> the following doc type.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN">
: >>>>>
: >>>>> <noscript>
: >>>>> <meta http-equiv="refresh"
: >>>>>
content="1;URL=http://www.webcandesign.com/index.html">
: >>>>> </noscript>
: >>>>>
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Is there another way of acomplishing this?
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Paul
: >>>>
: >>>> I figuire if I can use a server side redirect then
this might work for
: >>>> me
: >>>> since the other does not validate.
: >>>>
: >>>> Sort of a noscript redirection for asp. is there such
a thing or
: >>>> similiar
: >>>> thing?
: >>>>
: >>>> Paul
: >>
: >> Onless its been passed something from vb script?
: >>
: >> Paul
:
: HI! I want to bother because I need to know if the user
has come in through
: a bookmark. and if he did come though a bookmark then I
need to redirect
: him/her to another page. as of now I do know a way but it
doesn ot validate
: in w3c.org and that's why I am posting this question.
sorry if I did not
: make myself clear before.
:
: Paul
:
:
your page?
: Murray wrote:
: > Yes, but why bother?
: >
: >
: > : >> Murray wrote:
: >>> The server cannot know if the client has js enabled,
you know?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> Paul wrote:
: >>>>> HI! I use the following to redirect the user to
another page if they
: >>>>> do have JavaScript turned on but it will not
validate at w3c.org with
: >>>>> the following doc type.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN">
: >>>>>
: >>>>> <noscript>
: >>>>> <meta http-equiv="refresh"
: >>>>>
content="1;URL=http://www.webcandesign.com/index.html">
: >>>>> </noscript>
: >>>>>
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Is there another way of acomplishing this?
: >>>>>
: >>>>> Paul
: >>>>
: >>>> I figuire if I can use a server side redirect then
this might work for
: >>>> me
: >>>> since the other does not validate.
: >>>>
: >>>> Sort of a noscript redirection for asp. is there such
a thing or
: >>>> similiar
: >>>> thing?
: >>>>
: >>>> Paul
: >>
: >> Onless its been passed something from vb script?
: >>
: >> Paul
:
: HI! I want to bother because I need to know if the user
has come in through
: a bookmark. and if he did come though a bookmark then I
need to redirect
: him/her to another page. as of now I do know a way but it
doesn ot validate
: in w3c.org and that's why I am posting this question.
sorry if I did not
: make myself clear before.
:
: Paul
:
:
P
Paul
Mike said:Have you ever checked to see how many people have bookmarked
your page?
Is that really the point? how many people booked marked any site with the
same situaltion? Am I the only person with delema?
Paul
K
Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]
Paul said:You both miss the point. this is about what if the user enters in through
a bookmark. Then what do you do?
my first page does redirect the user to another page. but what if the user
bookmarded the main page?.
You may need a 301 Redirect
http://www.webconfs.com/how-to-redirect-a-webpage.php
--
~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
R
Ronx
If the user enters through a bookmark then the user has a browser that
can, and has, run JavaScript.
All you need is a notice after the body:
<body>
<noscript>
You need to turn on Javascript to see this page
</noscript>
Links to this page from search engines would be possible, but unlikely
since the search engines would have been redirected to the
non-javascript page (unless the spider uses Javascript, and if the
spider stayed on the site after the redirect).
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
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can, and has, run JavaScript.
All you need is a notice after the body:
<body>
<noscript>
You need to turn on Javascript to see this page
</noscript>
Links to this page from search engines would be possible, but unlikely
since the search engines would have been redirected to the
non-javascript page (unless the spider uses Javascript, and if the
spider stayed on the site after the redirect).
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S
Stefan B Rusynko
Why penalize the site & the majority for the few w/ js turned off
IMHO - Add a noscript w/ a link to the non-js page version
<body>
<noscript>
<noscript><div align="center" style="border: 1px solid Red;">
<h3>You must have JavaScript Enabled to View and Navigate this Site - or see our: <a href="otherpage.htm">alternate non-script
page</a></h3>
</div></noscript>
- your normal js based page content here
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_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________
| | >
| >
| > I still think you should do the page as the non-js-enabled
| > version, and use a js redirect if js was available/enabled
| >
|
| I agree.
|
|
| --
|
| ~ Kathleen Anderson
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| Spider Web Woman Designs
| web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
|
|
|
IMHO - Add a noscript w/ a link to the non-js page version
<body>
<noscript>
<noscript><div align="center" style="border: 1px solid Red;">
<h3>You must have JavaScript Enabled to View and Navigate this Site - or see our: <a href="otherpage.htm">alternate non-script
page</a></h3>
</div></noscript>
- your normal js based page content here
--
_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________
| | >
| >
| > I still think you should do the page as the non-js-enabled
| > version, and use a js redirect if js was available/enabled
| >
|
| I agree.
|
|
| --
|
| ~ Kathleen Anderson
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| Spider Web Woman Designs
| web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
|
|
|
P
Paul
Paul said:You both miss the point. this is about what if the user enters in through
a bookmark. Then what do you do?
my first page does redirect the user to another page. but what if the user
bookmarded the main page?.
Paul
HI! I was hoping for a more automated way of doing it. useing noscript with
the meta refresh works but it just does not validate.
Paul
M
Murray
Don't use the meta refresh. That's the point.
A
Andrew Murray
the meta refresh is not a "javascript redirect".....??
why the <noscript> tags around the <meta http-equiv> tag?
why the <noscript> tags around the <meta http-equiv> tag?
C
Chris Leeds, MVP - FrontPage
I didn't say any of that.
Just to start with a valid page before worrying about the validity of the JS
redirect.
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Just to start with a valid page before worrying about the validity of the JS
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