Like a bad penny

[Nahshon Evren]

Sorry I really couldn't say ...

A problem with no solution looks like, but as Frank Zappa
once said - the ocean's the ultimate solution

Nash

From a user perspective, what AddIns do you think you have - what do you do
in Word that isn't core Word functionality? And what application does
40premi belong to?

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Nothing to do with Systran either...





"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...

Googling for 40premi.dot turns up this SYSTRAN page:

http://www.systran.fr/support/Enterprise/V4/faq.html

Take a look at section 2.1.8 Various problems with Office XP

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Thanks for your enthousiasm with this endless problem -
I think the four options you mention are OK , if you can tell
me how I can give you the names of the AddIns and Global Templates ;
the only addin I found was 40premi.dot

Thanks

Nash


"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...
I don't see how the Data key could trigger an ActiveX warning but ....

If you don't see that key then
- you are looking in the wrong place, or ..
- you are not running Word 2002 (XP), or ..
- you do not have full registry rights on your machine, or ..
- your sysadmins are messing about in some way

Any or all of the above reasons may partially explain why you are not
finding the root of your problem.

A (non-COM) AddIn or Global Template is almost certainly the

culprit;
the

fact that you don't get the problem in safe mode tends to confirm this
(removing them is a large part of what starting in safe mode does).
Can
you
list the you have and maybe someone will
recognise one of them as being a potential cause.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

no 'data' in that path Debbie






"debbie via OfficeKB.com" <u3408@uwe> a écrit dans le message de 6d1cf838be36c@uwe...
Hi there

This is a long shot. I am sure I remember coming across this problem
a
very
long time ago. It's so long ago that I can't honestly remember

why
I

think
this is the answer but - have you tried deleting the data key in
the
following registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Word\Data

If it doesn't do the trick it shouldn't do any harm as Word will
rebuild
the
relevant information - but it will set your toolbars/menus back to
their
default settings.

Debbie


Nahshon Evren wrote:
No good ... !

No it doesn't Tony - if I press CTRL
the warning doesn't come up ...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
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[Tony Jollans]

Let's start at the beginning again. You have some sort of program or process
running when you start Word, which throws an error. That can only be in
something which opens at Word startup and is almost certainly either your
Normal template or an AddIn. I know you've done a lot of this before but I
want to be absolutely clear in the steps to take.

We'll start with AddIns (non-COM). You should see these under Tools >
Templates and AddIns but removing them from Word's sight via the File System
is a surer way.

AddIns can be in one of two places. The first is your personal Startup
folder; you haven't said what version of Windows you are running so I can't
be certain of the default location but as you could have overridden it
anyway ..

In Word, select Tools > Options from the Menu
Click on the File Locations tab
Select Startup in the list (under "File types") and press Modify...
That will give you an Explorer-type Window
In that window, click on the "Create new folder" icon at the top (towards
the right)
In the popup box, enter a name - it doesn't matter what name you use (so
long as its a valid folder name)
Click "OK"
Click "OK" again (back in the Modify Dialog)
Click "OK" again (in the OptionsDialog)

You now have a guaranteed empty startup folder.
Close Word.
Reopen Word.
Do you still have the problem?
If not then one of the files in (original) startup folder is to blame.

If you do still have the problem, on to the next stage.

The second (and final) place where AddIns might be located is what is often
called the "Office startup folder" (although I consider that a misnomer).

To find this you need to know what is called the installation root folder.
To be absolutely certain you find the right one, go to the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Common\InstallRoot and
look at the value for "Path" (the default on Windows XP is C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\).

Now navigate to this path in Windows Explorer (My Computer or whatever you
use) and make sure you have "Show hidden files and folders" selected and
"Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" NOT selected. Then
browse the Startup sub-folder. Move everything out of here (a sub-folder as
Jonathan described earlier is a good place to keep the files).

Close and re-open Word again.
If the problem has gone then one of the files in this startup folder is to
blame.

If you still have the problem, then on to your Normal template. It can be in
a couple of places. To be absolutely certain you get the right one ...

In Word ...
Press Alt+F11 (to open the VBE)
Press Ctrl+G to open tyhe "Immediate" Window
In the Immediate Window, type "?NormalTemplate.FullName" and press enter.
The full name and path of the Normal template will be shown - make a note of
it.
Press Alt+F4 to close the VBE
Close Word

In My Computer, navigate to the place just identified, again making sure you
see both hidden and system files
Rename Normal.dot to Normal.old - or anything else that you fancy

Start Word again
Do you still have the problem?
If so, come back!

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Sorry I really couldn't say ...

A problem with no solution looks like, but as Frank Zappa
once said - the ocean's the ultimate solution

Nash

From a user perspective, what AddIns do you think you have - what do you do
in Word that isn't core Word functionality? And what application does
40premi belong to?

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Nothing to do with Systran either...





"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...
Googling for 40premi.dot turns up this SYSTRAN page:

http://www.systran.fr/support/Enterprise/V4/faq.html

Take a look at section 2.1.8 Various problems with Office XP

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Thanks for your enthousiasm with this endless problem -
I think the four options you mention are OK , if you can tell
me how I can give you the names of the AddIns and Global Templates ;
the only addin I found was 40premi.dot

Thanks

Nash


"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le
message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...
I don't see how the Data key could trigger an ActiveX warning but ...

If you don't see that key then
- you are looking in the wrong place, or ..
- you are not running Word 2002 (XP), or ..
- you do not have full registry rights on your machine, or ..
- your sysadmins are messing about in some way

Any or all of the above reasons may partially explain why you are not
finding the root of your problem.

A (non-COM) AddIn or Global Template is almost certainly the culprit;
the
fact that you don't get the problem in safe mode tends to confirm this
(removing them is a large part of what starting in safe mode does).
Can
you
list the you have and maybe someone will
recognise one of them as being a potential cause.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

no 'data' in that path Debbie






"debbie via OfficeKB.com" <u3408@uwe> a écrit dans le message de
6d1cf838be36c@uwe...
Hi there

This is a long shot. I am sure I remember coming across this
problem
a
very
long time ago. It's so long ago that I can't honestly remember why
I
think
this is the answer but - have you tried deleting the data key in
the
following registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Word\Data

If it doesn't do the trick it shouldn't do any harm as Word will
rebuild
the
relevant information - but it will set your toolbars/menus back to
their
default settings.

Debbie


Nahshon Evren wrote:
No good ... !

No it doesn't Tony - if I press CTRL
the warning doesn't come up ...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
Please reply to the newsgroup
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[Nahshon Evren]

Tony,

it's very good of you to go to so much trouble -
I'll check out all your advice this weekend and let you know
what happens - will do everything again

Nash

Let's start at the beginning again. You have some sort of program or process
running when you start Word, which throws an error. That can only be in
something which opens at Word startup and is almost certainly either your
Normal template or an AddIn. I know you've done a lot of this before but I
want to be absolutely clear in the steps to take.

We'll start with AddIns (non-COM). You should see these under Tools >
Templates and AddIns but removing them from Word's sight via the File System
is a surer way.

AddIns can be in one of two places. The first is your personal Startup
folder; you haven't said what version of Windows you are running so I can't
be certain of the default location but as you could have overridden it
anyway ..

In Word, select Tools > Options from the Menu
Click on the File Locations tab
Select Startup in the list (under "File types") and press Modify...
That will give you an Explorer-type Window
In that window, click on the "Create new folder" icon at the top (towards
the right)
In the popup box, enter a name - it doesn't matter what name you use (so
long as its a valid folder name)
Click "OK"
Click "OK" again (back in the Modify Dialog)
Click "OK" again (in the OptionsDialog)

You now have a guaranteed empty startup folder.
Close Word.
Reopen Word.
Do you still have the problem?
If not then one of the files in (original) startup folder is to blame.

If you do still have the problem, on to the next stage.

The second (and final) place where AddIns might be located is what is often
called the "Office startup folder" (although I consider that a misnomer).

To find this you need to know what is called the installation root folder.
To be absolutely certain you find the right one, go to the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Common\InstallRoot and
look at the value for "Path" (the default on Windows XP is C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\).

Now navigate to this path in Windows Explorer (My Computer or whatever you
use) and make sure you have "Show hidden files and folders" selected and
"Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" NOT selected. Then
browse the Startup sub-folder. Move everything out of here (a sub-folder as
Jonathan described earlier is a good place to keep the files).

Close and re-open Word again.
If the problem has gone then one of the files in this startup folder is to
blame.

If you still have the problem, then on to your Normal template. It can be in
a couple of places. To be absolutely certain you get the right one ...

In Word ...
Press Alt+F11 (to open the VBE)
Press Ctrl+G to open tyhe "Immediate" Window
In the Immediate Window, type "?NormalTemplate.FullName" and press enter.
The full name and path of the Normal template will be shown - make a note of
it.
Press Alt+F4 to close the VBE
Close Word

In My Computer, navigate to the place just identified, again making sure you
see both hidden and system files
Rename Normal.dot to Normal.old - or anything else that you fancy

Start Word again
Do you still have the problem?
If so, come back!

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Sorry I really couldn't say ...

A problem with no solution looks like, but as Frank Zappa
once said - the ocean's the ultimate solution

Nash




"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...

From a user perspective, what AddIns do you think you have - what do

you
do

in Word that isn't core Word functionality? And what application does
40premi belong to?

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Nothing to do with Systran either...





"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...
Googling for 40premi.dot turns up this SYSTRAN page:

http://www.systran.fr/support/Enterprise/V4/faq.html

Take a look at section 2.1.8 Various problems with Office XP

--
Enjoy,
Tony

Thanks for your enthousiasm with this endless problem -
I think the four options you mention are OK , if you can tell
me how I can give you the names of the AddIns and Global Templates ;
the only addin I found was 40premi.dot

Thanks

Nash


"Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> a écrit dans le
message
de news: (e-mail address removed)...
I don't see how the Data key could trigger an ActiveX warning but ...

If you don't see that key then
- you are looking in the wrong place, or ..
- you are not running Word 2002 (XP), or ..
- you do not have full registry rights on your machine, or ..
- your sysadmins are messing about in some way

Any or all of the above reasons may partially explain why you are not
finding the root of your problem.

A (non-COM) AddIn or Global Template is almost certainly the culprit;
the
fact that you don't get the problem in safe mode tends to confirm this
(removing them is a large part of what starting in safe mode does).
Can
you
list the you have and maybe someone will
recognise one of them as being a potential cause.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

no 'data' in that path Debbie






"debbie via OfficeKB.com" <u3408@uwe> a écrit dans le message de
6d1cf838be36c@uwe...
Hi there

This is a long shot. I am sure I remember coming across this
problem
a
very
long time ago. It's so long ago that I can't honestly

remember
why

I
think
this is the answer but - have you tried deleting the data key in
the
following registry path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Word\Data

If it doesn't do the trick it shouldn't do any harm as Word will
rebuild
the
relevant information - but it will set your toolbars/menus

back
to

their
default settings.

Debbie


Nahshon Evren wrote:
No good ... !

No it doesn't Tony - if I press CTRL
the warning doesn't come up ...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
Please reply to the newsgroup
Keep your VBA code safe, sign the ClassicVB petition
www.classicvb.org

 

[Nahshon Evren]

Just to let everyone know - it's solved after four years :

it was a dll called dao.dll which wasn't registered

Adios