P
pvanwell
I tried and checked all of your suggestions, it doesn't change a thing.
Thank you for your assistance. All of you.
Peter
Thank you for your assistance. All of you.
Peter
P
pvanwell
I owe all who have attempted to help me an update. The one thing I had not
considered is the package writing software's role in this equation. At the
time we were discussing this case on-line I was using Roxio's Easy Media
Creator, to be more specific it's package writing software Drag-to-Disc. I
had installed that software late last year and all along felt that that
install might have had something to do with it. Yesterday I uninstalled that
version and re-installed Roxio 6 - Easy CD & DVD creator. My problems have
now been resolved. Last night I logged into Roxio's on-line discussion forum
and found that I am not the only frustrated person out there. Apparently
many are having a problem in the Roxio and Word (2002 and 2003) interface.
It is not entirely clear what happens, but for sure my problems are over with
as of yesterday afternoon.
I know that I stumped all of you with my problem, though it turns out that
the problem did not lie within Microsoft's software rather elsewhere. Not
knowing that you guys couldn't have helped me. Now maybe you can redirect
the next user having this problem.
Thank you.
Peter.
considered is the package writing software's role in this equation. At the
time we were discussing this case on-line I was using Roxio's Easy Media
Creator, to be more specific it's package writing software Drag-to-Disc. I
had installed that software late last year and all along felt that that
install might have had something to do with it. Yesterday I uninstalled that
version and re-installed Roxio 6 - Easy CD & DVD creator. My problems have
now been resolved. Last night I logged into Roxio's on-line discussion forum
and found that I am not the only frustrated person out there. Apparently
many are having a problem in the Roxio and Word (2002 and 2003) interface.
It is not entirely clear what happens, but for sure my problems are over with
as of yesterday afternoon.
I know that I stumped all of you with my problem, though it turns out that
the problem did not lie within Microsoft's software rather elsewhere. Not
knowing that you guys couldn't have helped me. Now maybe you can redirect
the next user having this problem.
Thank you.
Peter.
T
TF
Peter
Thanks for the information which will certainly be useful.
Terry Farrell
:I owe all who have attempted to help me an update. The one thing I had not
: considered is the package writing software's role in this equation. At
the
: time we were discussing this case on-line I was using Roxio's Easy Media
: Creator, to be more specific it's package writing software Drag-to-Disc.
I
: had installed that software late last year and all along felt that that
: install might have had something to do with it. Yesterday I uninstalled
that
: version and re-installed Roxio 6 - Easy CD & DVD creator. My problems
have
: now been resolved. Last night I logged into Roxio's on-line discussion
forum
: and found that I am not the only frustrated person out there. Apparently
: many are having a problem in the Roxio and Word (2002 and 2003) interface.
: It is not entirely clear what happens, but for sure my problems are over
with
: as of yesterday afternoon.
:
: I know that I stumped all of you with my problem, though it turns out that
: the problem did not lie within Microsoft's software rather elsewhere. Not
: knowing that you guys couldn't have helped me. Now maybe you can redirect
: the next user having this problem.
:
: Thank you.
:
: Peter.
:
: "Beth Melton" wrote:
:
: > I'm with Terry. Not only have I run out of ideas too but I've also
: > considered temp files too since it only occurs when you save to a
: > CD-RW.
: >
: > The only thing is I can't quite decide how it would happen. Do you
: > happen to have Fast Saves enabled? Take a look under
: > Tools/Options/Save and make sure Fast Saves is turned off. You
: > mentioned a previously deleted page number reappearing at some point
: > so using Fast Saves could be complicating matters. A Fast Save will
: > only write new edits to the document - it doesn't re-write the
: > document so previously deleted data may remain in the binary.
: >
: > Also, while you are there, does turning on "Make local copy of files
: > stored on network or removable drives" make a difference?
: >
: > This option will save the document to your HD first and then copy it
: > to your CD-RW after it has been saved.
: >
: > --
: > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
: > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: >
: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > Beth Melton
: > Microsoft Office MVP
: >
: > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: >
: >
: > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > : > > Peter
: > >
: > > At the moment I have run out of ideas. This is the first incidence
: > > ever of
: > > margins resizing spontaneously when saving the a CD-R. My only
: > > thought at
: > > the moment is that it has something to do with the temp files that
: > > Word has
: > > to create in the target folder when it saves. Word needs to build
: > > and delete
: > > temp files in the target folder, so you really should use a CD-RW -
: > > but I
: > > know that many users trying to save direct to a CD-RW using packet
: > > writing
: > > have problems with corruptions, but not exactly as you describe.
: > >
: > > Terry
: > >
: > > : > > : Beth,
: > > :
: > > : I will stick to this thread. I have tried the /a option, it was
: > > suggested
: > > : by Terry Farrell. It made no difference.
: > > :
: > > : And yes this problem does not occur when I save to HD.
: > > :
: > > : Peter
: > > :
: > > : "Beth Melton" wrote:
: > > :
: > > : > As I'm sure you've realized, none of us have ever heard of such
: > > a
: > > : > phenomena before so please bear with us and we should be able to
: > > get
: > > : > to the bottom of it.
: > > : >
: > > : > I'm not sure what you've tried already, since this topic has
: > > been
: > > : > split in several threads, but did you see if this occurs when
: > > you
: > > : > start Word using the /a switch? Go to Start/Run and run:
: > > : >
: > > : > winword /a
: > > : >
: > > : > Note the space before the forward slash.
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > > : > And, just to verify, this does not occur if you save the
: > > document to
: > > : > your HD?
: > > : >
: > > : > Also, if you could stick with this thread and abandon the others
: > > in
: > > : > this group we'd appreciate it. It helps to have the full
: > > conversation
: > > : > for review if needed.
: > > : >
: > > : > --
: > > : > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests
: > > for
: > > : > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: > > : >
: > > : > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > > : > Beth Melton
: > > : > Microsoft Office MVP
: > > : >
: > > : > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > > : > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > > : > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > > : > : > > : > > Terry,
: > > : > >
: > > : > > My main storage medium is the CD-RW, due to my work I can most
: > > : > > easily take a
: > > : > > CD-RW from one place to the next. While I am working on a
: > > document
: > > : > > in Word
: > > : > > using the normal.dot template as it's foundation and save that
: > > file
: > > : > > to my
: > > : > > CD-RW, my page settings change, I can see the margins shift as
: > > it
: > > : > > happens.
: > > : > > My normal.dot margin settings are 1.0 for the left and right
: > > margin,
: > > : > > once I
: > > : > > save my document to the CD-RW the margins change to 1.25 (left
: > > and
: > > : > > right).
: > > : > > If I close the file/document at that time and re-open it, it
: > > opens
: > > : > > with the
: > > : > > 1.25 margin setting regardless on which computer I open it.
: > > Yet any
: > > : > > new
: > > : > > document I start opens with the 1.0 margins per the normal.dot
: > > : > > template.
: > > : > >
: > > : > > Peter
: > > : > >
: > > : > > "TF" wrote:
: > > : > >
: > > : > >> Peter
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Now I am confused. What do you mean by sentence, "My problem
: > > does
: > > : > >> not when I
: > > : > >> open my files, although they are saved with the adjusted
: > > (1.25
: > > : > >> margins)"?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Do you save your files to the local HDD and with what
: > > margins? If
: > > : > >> you open
: > > : > >> the saved document directly from the HDD, what margins do
: > > they
: > > : > >> have? What
: > > : > >> margins are set in the template (presumably Normal.dot)?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> I am beginning to think that you have set your Template to
: > > : > >> Automatically
: > > : > >> update and are trying to save the same document with two
: > > different
: > > : > >> margin
: > > : > >> sizes and getting a confliction of settings?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Terry Farrell
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >>
: > > message
: > > : > >> : > > : > >> : Hello Beth,
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : Thanks for your assistance. Unfortunately the dialog box
: > > did not
: > > : > >> open. I
: > > : > >> : did exactly what you suggested. My problem does not when I
: > > open
: > > : > >> my files,
: > > : > >> : although they are saved with the adjusted (1.25 margins).
: > > : > >> Instead my
: > > : > >> problem
: > > : > >> : occurs when I save a document that is still open to CD-ROM.
: > > Once
: > > : > >> I click
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : "Save" icon, my page settings change from 1.0 margins to
: > > 1.25 and
: > > : > >> just in
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : past few days I noticed that my first page number keeps
: > > : > >> re-appearing in
: > > : > >> spite
: > > : > >> : of "turning it off".
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : Peter.
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : "Beth Melton" wrote:
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : > Hi Peter,
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > It could be Word is not recognizing the file format
: > > correctly
: > > : > >> and it
: > > : > >> : > is utilizing the recover text format to open the file.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > In past versions of Word when the recover text format was
: > > used,
: > > : > >> as
: > > : > >> : > Suzanne noted, the Files of Type in the Open dialog box
: > > would
: > > : > >> default
: > > : > >> : > to "Recover text from any file". Now if it is used the
: > > Files of
: > > : > >> Type
: > > : > >> : > will default to "All Files". However Word could still be
: > > using
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : > recover text format to open the document.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > In order to determine if this is the case:
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > - Go to Tools/Options/General
: > > : > >> : > - Turn on "Confirm conversion at Open"
: > > : > >> : > - Open a document that exhibits the behavior
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > You may encounter a "Confirm Conversion" dialog box. If
: > > so,
: > > : > >> what is
: > > : > >> : > selected in the Convert File dialog?
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > --
: > > : > >> : > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup.
: > > Requests
: > > : > >> for
: > > : > >> : > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > > : > >> : > Beth Melton
: > > : > >> : > Microsoft Office MVP
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > > : > >> : > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > > : > >> : > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> message
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > > : > >> : > > Beth and Suzanne,
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > Thanks for your help. I looked at what Beth suggested
: > > and
: > > : > >> played
: > > : > >> : > > around
: > > : > >> : > > with it. Regardless of how I open my files, when I
: > > save them
: > > : > >> (to
: > > : > >> : > > CD-ROM) the
: > > : > >> : > > margins change.
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > I started another post later this afternoon, in which I
: > > added
: > > : > >> : > > another odd
: > > : > >> : > > thing I noticed happening. When using page numbers,
: > > such
: > > : > >> that the
: > > : > >> : > > first page
: > > : > >> : > > number doesn't show, upon saving (to CD-ROM) the first
: > > page
: > > : > >> number
: > > : > >> : > > re-appears
: > > : > >> : > > on the first page.
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > Peter.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >>
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
: >
Thanks for the information which will certainly be useful.
Terry Farrell
:I owe all who have attempted to help me an update. The one thing I had not
: considered is the package writing software's role in this equation. At
the
: time we were discussing this case on-line I was using Roxio's Easy Media
: Creator, to be more specific it's package writing software Drag-to-Disc.
I
: had installed that software late last year and all along felt that that
: install might have had something to do with it. Yesterday I uninstalled
that
: version and re-installed Roxio 6 - Easy CD & DVD creator. My problems
have
: now been resolved. Last night I logged into Roxio's on-line discussion
forum
: and found that I am not the only frustrated person out there. Apparently
: many are having a problem in the Roxio and Word (2002 and 2003) interface.
: It is not entirely clear what happens, but for sure my problems are over
with
: as of yesterday afternoon.
:
: I know that I stumped all of you with my problem, though it turns out that
: the problem did not lie within Microsoft's software rather elsewhere. Not
: knowing that you guys couldn't have helped me. Now maybe you can redirect
: the next user having this problem.
:
: Thank you.
:
: Peter.
:
: "Beth Melton" wrote:
:
: > I'm with Terry. Not only have I run out of ideas too but I've also
: > considered temp files too since it only occurs when you save to a
: > CD-RW.
: >
: > The only thing is I can't quite decide how it would happen. Do you
: > happen to have Fast Saves enabled? Take a look under
: > Tools/Options/Save and make sure Fast Saves is turned off. You
: > mentioned a previously deleted page number reappearing at some point
: > so using Fast Saves could be complicating matters. A Fast Save will
: > only write new edits to the document - it doesn't re-write the
: > document so previously deleted data may remain in the binary.
: >
: > Also, while you are there, does turning on "Make local copy of files
: > stored on network or removable drives" make a difference?
: >
: > This option will save the document to your HD first and then copy it
: > to your CD-RW after it has been saved.
: >
: > --
: > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
: > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: >
: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > Beth Melton
: > Microsoft Office MVP
: >
: > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: >
: >
: > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > : > > Peter
: > >
: > > At the moment I have run out of ideas. This is the first incidence
: > > ever of
: > > margins resizing spontaneously when saving the a CD-R. My only
: > > thought at
: > > the moment is that it has something to do with the temp files that
: > > Word has
: > > to create in the target folder when it saves. Word needs to build
: > > and delete
: > > temp files in the target folder, so you really should use a CD-RW -
: > > but I
: > > know that many users trying to save direct to a CD-RW using packet
: > > writing
: > > have problems with corruptions, but not exactly as you describe.
: > >
: > > Terry
: > >
: > > : > > : Beth,
: > > :
: > > : I will stick to this thread. I have tried the /a option, it was
: > > suggested
: > > : by Terry Farrell. It made no difference.
: > > :
: > > : And yes this problem does not occur when I save to HD.
: > > :
: > > : Peter
: > > :
: > > : "Beth Melton" wrote:
: > > :
: > > : > As I'm sure you've realized, none of us have ever heard of such
: > > a
: > > : > phenomena before so please bear with us and we should be able to
: > > get
: > > : > to the bottom of it.
: > > : >
: > > : > I'm not sure what you've tried already, since this topic has
: > > been
: > > : > split in several threads, but did you see if this occurs when
: > > you
: > > : > start Word using the /a switch? Go to Start/Run and run:
: > > : >
: > > : > winword /a
: > > : >
: > > : > Note the space before the forward slash.
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > > : > And, just to verify, this does not occur if you save the
: > > document to
: > > : > your HD?
: > > : >
: > > : > Also, if you could stick with this thread and abandon the others
: > > in
: > > : > this group we'd appreciate it. It helps to have the full
: > > conversation
: > > : > for review if needed.
: > > : >
: > > : > --
: > > : > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests
: > > for
: > > : > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: > > : >
: > > : > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > > : > Beth Melton
: > > : > Microsoft Office MVP
: > > : >
: > > : > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > > : > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > > : > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: > > : >
: > > : >
: > > : > : > > : > > Terry,
: > > : > >
: > > : > > My main storage medium is the CD-RW, due to my work I can most
: > > : > > easily take a
: > > : > > CD-RW from one place to the next. While I am working on a
: > > document
: > > : > > in Word
: > > : > > using the normal.dot template as it's foundation and save that
: > > file
: > > : > > to my
: > > : > > CD-RW, my page settings change, I can see the margins shift as
: > > it
: > > : > > happens.
: > > : > > My normal.dot margin settings are 1.0 for the left and right
: > > margin,
: > > : > > once I
: > > : > > save my document to the CD-RW the margins change to 1.25 (left
: > > and
: > > : > > right).
: > > : > > If I close the file/document at that time and re-open it, it
: > > opens
: > > : > > with the
: > > : > > 1.25 margin setting regardless on which computer I open it.
: > > Yet any
: > > : > > new
: > > : > > document I start opens with the 1.0 margins per the normal.dot
: > > : > > template.
: > > : > >
: > > : > > Peter
: > > : > >
: > > : > > "TF" wrote:
: > > : > >
: > > : > >> Peter
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Now I am confused. What do you mean by sentence, "My problem
: > > does
: > > : > >> not when I
: > > : > >> open my files, although they are saved with the adjusted
: > > (1.25
: > > : > >> margins)"?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Do you save your files to the local HDD and with what
: > > margins? If
: > > : > >> you open
: > > : > >> the saved document directly from the HDD, what margins do
: > > they
: > > : > >> have? What
: > > : > >> margins are set in the template (presumably Normal.dot)?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> I am beginning to think that you have set your Template to
: > > : > >> Automatically
: > > : > >> update and are trying to save the same document with two
: > > different
: > > : > >> margin
: > > : > >> sizes and getting a confliction of settings?
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >> Terry Farrell
: > > : > >>
: > > : > >>
: > > message
: > > : > >> : > > : > >> : Hello Beth,
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : Thanks for your assistance. Unfortunately the dialog box
: > > did not
: > > : > >> open. I
: > > : > >> : did exactly what you suggested. My problem does not when I
: > > open
: > > : > >> my files,
: > > : > >> : although they are saved with the adjusted (1.25 margins).
: > > : > >> Instead my
: > > : > >> problem
: > > : > >> : occurs when I save a document that is still open to CD-ROM.
: > > Once
: > > : > >> I click
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : "Save" icon, my page settings change from 1.0 margins to
: > > 1.25 and
: > > : > >> just in
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : past few days I noticed that my first page number keeps
: > > : > >> re-appearing in
: > > : > >> spite
: > > : > >> : of "turning it off".
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : Peter.
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : "Beth Melton" wrote:
: > > : > >> :
: > > : > >> : > Hi Peter,
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > It could be Word is not recognizing the file format
: > > correctly
: > > : > >> and it
: > > : > >> : > is utilizing the recover text format to open the file.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > In past versions of Word when the recover text format was
: > > used,
: > > : > >> as
: > > : > >> : > Suzanne noted, the Files of Type in the Open dialog box
: > > would
: > > : > >> default
: > > : > >> : > to "Recover text from any file". Now if it is used the
: > > Files of
: > > : > >> Type
: > > : > >> : > will default to "All Files". However Word could still be
: > > using
: > > : > >> the
: > > : > >> : > recover text format to open the document.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > In order to determine if this is the case:
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > - Go to Tools/Options/General
: > > : > >> : > - Turn on "Confirm conversion at Open"
: > > : > >> : > - Open a document that exhibits the behavior
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > You may encounter a "Confirm Conversion" dialog box. If
: > > so,
: > > : > >> what is
: > > : > >> : > selected in the Convert File dialog?
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > --
: > > : > >> : > Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup.
: > > Requests
: > > : > >> for
: > > : > >> : > assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > > : > >> : > Beth Melton
: > > : > >> : > Microsoft Office MVP
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : > Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
: > > : > >> : > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
: > > : > >> : > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> message
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > > : > >> : > > Beth and Suzanne,
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > Thanks for your help. I looked at what Beth suggested
: > > and
: > > : > >> played
: > > : > >> : > > around
: > > : > >> : > > with it. Regardless of how I open my files, when I
: > > save them
: > > : > >> (to
: > > : > >> : > > CD-ROM) the
: > > : > >> : > > margins change.
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > I started another post later this afternoon, in which I
: > > added
: > > : > >> : > > another odd
: > > : > >> : > > thing I noticed happening. When using page numbers,
: > > such
: > > : > >> that the
: > > : > >> : > > first page
: > > : > >> : > > number doesn't show, upon saving (to CD-ROM) the first
: > > page
: > > : > >> number
: > > : > >> : > > re-appears
: > > : > >> : > > on the first page.
: > > : > >> : > >
: > > : > >> : > > Peter.
: > > : > >> : >
: > > : > >> : >
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Beth Melton
Thanks for the update Peter!
Definitely not clear on *how* it could happen - I still suspect it
could have something to do with the way it handles the temp files. In
any case I'm glad to hear it has been resolved.
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Definitely not clear on *how* it could happen - I still suspect it
could have something to do with the way it handles the temp files. In
any case I'm glad to hear it has been resolved.
--
Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/