Networked Office

C

catwalker63

It's like talking to a wall. Give it up people. She's never going to
listen. Let her beat herself bloody against his problem by herself.

--
Kelley
aka catwalker
IT Professional, MCP


Sarah Tanembaum said:
I wonder why MS do all that fuss which in fact it is easier to just make the
apps to run from any file server and execute it on the individual
workstation.

Application will only be installed once in the file server.
What is so hard to do that? The technology is already there and it needs
only MS willingness to make it to work or not.

Sarah

Susan Bradley said:
If you purchased the MOLP version you can do what's called an
administrative install on the server and PUSH it down to the workstations.

But honestly these days, Office 2003 will install without the install
point and get updates.

Creating an Administrative Installation Point (Office 2003 Editions
Resource Kit):
http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2003/two/ch3/DepB01.htm
in
my
server and mount that disk on my workstation and execute the exe file from
there.

You can. It's called Terminal Server.. but you can't do this with SBS2003.
If I need to upgrade, all I have to do is upgrade the server and those 10(or
100 workstation) will get updated instantly without clogging up the network
for transferring files between the server and those 10(or 100) client
workstation.

I think you all know what I'm talking about but most of your MVP[Microsoft
....] are avoding the issues.

No we're telling you

a. you can do what you want but you don't have the right products to do
it with [you need TS in application mode which SBS cannot do]

b. You can work around it with an install point on the server that
pushes out the software directly to the workstation.

We're not avoiding the issue, unfortunately, you aren't liking the
answers we are giving you which are the only ones we can give you unless you

1. Buy a second server for TS in application mode
2. Buy TS cals for those XPs

You don't have the right parts to do what you want.

You do have the right parts to do an alternative.
Please ....



Sarah,

I might jump in here for a second.

First of all, the idea of a Terminal Server is generally a really good

idea.

I have been using Terminal Server for the last 15 months or so and it is
generally a great thing. As Kevin mentioned, you can no longer install
Terminal Server in Application Mode ( err, that is the WIN2000
terminology.... ) on the SBS2003 Server itself. There are some very good
reasons for this. You would need a second server that would be the

Terminal

Server. On SBS2000 you can indeed do this - but again, not generally a

good

idea to run Terminal Server in Application Mode on a Domain Controller....

However, since you have powerful workstations, you have a really good

point

/ question as to why do you would want to turn them into thin clients. I
would probably not want to do that! Du hast schon das Geld ausgegeben!

Secondly, you can indeed make an Administrative Installation of Office

2003

on your Server and install that application on each workstation from that
Admin Installation. The advantages of doing this are 1) you have a

common,

accessible installation point and 2) you do not have to worry about losing
the Office 2003 CD! However, the disadvantage of doing this (
compared
 
C

catwalker63

It's like talking to a wall. Give it up people. She's never going to
listen. Let her beat herself bloody against his problem by herself.

--
Kelley
aka catwalker
IT Professional, MCP


Sarah Tanembaum said:
I wonder why MS do all that fuss which in fact it is easier to just make the
apps to run from any file server and execute it on the individual
workstation.

Application will only be installed once in the file server.
What is so hard to do that? The technology is already there and it needs
only MS willingness to make it to work or not.

Sarah

Susan Bradley said:
If you purchased the MOLP version you can do what's called an
administrative install on the server and PUSH it down to the workstations.

But honestly these days, Office 2003 will install without the install
point and get updates.

Creating an Administrative Installation Point (Office 2003 Editions
Resource Kit):
http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2003/two/ch3/DepB01.htm
in
my
server and mount that disk on my workstation and execute the exe file from
there.

You can. It's called Terminal Server.. but you can't do this with SBS2003.
If I need to upgrade, all I have to do is upgrade the server and those 10(or
100 workstation) will get updated instantly without clogging up the network
for transferring files between the server and those 10(or 100) client
workstation.

I think you all know what I'm talking about but most of your MVP[Microsoft
....] are avoding the issues.

No we're telling you

a. you can do what you want but you don't have the right products to do
it with [you need TS in application mode which SBS cannot do]

b. You can work around it with an install point on the server that
pushes out the software directly to the workstation.

We're not avoiding the issue, unfortunately, you aren't liking the
answers we are giving you which are the only ones we can give you unless you

1. Buy a second server for TS in application mode
2. Buy TS cals for those XPs

You don't have the right parts to do what you want.

You do have the right parts to do an alternative.
Please ....



Sarah,

I might jump in here for a second.

First of all, the idea of a Terminal Server is generally a really good

idea.

I have been using Terminal Server for the last 15 months or so and it is
generally a great thing. As Kevin mentioned, you can no longer install
Terminal Server in Application Mode ( err, that is the WIN2000
terminology.... ) on the SBS2003 Server itself. There are some very good
reasons for this. You would need a second server that would be the

Terminal

Server. On SBS2000 you can indeed do this - but again, not generally a

good

idea to run Terminal Server in Application Mode on a Domain Controller....

However, since you have powerful workstations, you have a really good

point

/ question as to why do you would want to turn them into thin clients. I
would probably not want to do that! Du hast schon das Geld ausgegeben!

Secondly, you can indeed make an Administrative Installation of Office

2003

on your Server and install that application on each workstation from that
Admin Installation. The advantages of doing this are 1) you have a

common,

accessible installation point and 2) you do not have to worry about losing
the Office 2003 CD! However, the disadvantage of doing this (
compared
 
C

catwalker63

It's like talking to a wall. Give it up people. She's never going to
listen. Let her beat herself bloody against his problem by herself.

--
Kelley
aka catwalker
IT Professional, MCP


Sarah Tanembaum said:
I wonder why MS do all that fuss which in fact it is easier to just make the
apps to run from any file server and execute it on the individual
workstation.

Application will only be installed once in the file server.
What is so hard to do that? The technology is already there and it needs
only MS willingness to make it to work or not.

Sarah

Susan Bradley said:
If you purchased the MOLP version you can do what's called an
administrative install on the server and PUSH it down to the workstations.

But honestly these days, Office 2003 will install without the install
point and get updates.

Creating an Administrative Installation Point (Office 2003 Editions
Resource Kit):
http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2003/two/ch3/DepB01.htm
in
my
server and mount that disk on my workstation and execute the exe file from
there.

You can. It's called Terminal Server.. but you can't do this with SBS2003.
If I need to upgrade, all I have to do is upgrade the server and those 10(or
100 workstation) will get updated instantly without clogging up the network
for transferring files between the server and those 10(or 100) client
workstation.

I think you all know what I'm talking about but most of your MVP[Microsoft
....] are avoding the issues.

No we're telling you

a. you can do what you want but you don't have the right products to do
it with [you need TS in application mode which SBS cannot do]

b. You can work around it with an install point on the server that
pushes out the software directly to the workstation.

We're not avoiding the issue, unfortunately, you aren't liking the
answers we are giving you which are the only ones we can give you unless you

1. Buy a second server for TS in application mode
2. Buy TS cals for those XPs

You don't have the right parts to do what you want.

You do have the right parts to do an alternative.
Please ....



Sarah,

I might jump in here for a second.

First of all, the idea of a Terminal Server is generally a really good

idea.

I have been using Terminal Server for the last 15 months or so and it is
generally a great thing. As Kevin mentioned, you can no longer install
Terminal Server in Application Mode ( err, that is the WIN2000
terminology.... ) on the SBS2003 Server itself. There are some very good
reasons for this. You would need a second server that would be the

Terminal

Server. On SBS2000 you can indeed do this - but again, not generally a

good

idea to run Terminal Server in Application Mode on a Domain Controller....

However, since you have powerful workstations, you have a really good

point

/ question as to why do you would want to turn them into thin clients. I
would probably not want to do that! Du hast schon das Geld ausgegeben!

Secondly, you can indeed make an Administrative Installation of Office

2003

on your Server and install that application on each workstation from that
Admin Installation. The advantages of doing this are 1) you have a

common,

accessible installation point and 2) you do not have to worry about losing
the Office 2003 CD! However, the disadvantage of doing this (
compared
 
C

catwalker63

It's like talking to a wall. Give it up people. She's never going to
listen. Let her beat herself bloody against his problem by herself.

--
Kelley
aka catwalker
IT Professional, MCP


Sarah Tanembaum said:
I wonder why MS do all that fuss which in fact it is easier to just make the
apps to run from any file server and execute it on the individual
workstation.

Application will only be installed once in the file server.
What is so hard to do that? The technology is already there and it needs
only MS willingness to make it to work or not.

Sarah

Susan Bradley said:
If you purchased the MOLP version you can do what's called an
administrative install on the server and PUSH it down to the workstations.

But honestly these days, Office 2003 will install without the install
point and get updates.

Creating an Administrative Installation Point (Office 2003 Editions
Resource Kit):
http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2003/two/ch3/DepB01.htm
in
my
server and mount that disk on my workstation and execute the exe file from
there.

You can. It's called Terminal Server.. but you can't do this with SBS2003.
If I need to upgrade, all I have to do is upgrade the server and those 10(or
100 workstation) will get updated instantly without clogging up the network
for transferring files between the server and those 10(or 100) client
workstation.

I think you all know what I'm talking about but most of your MVP[Microsoft
....] are avoding the issues.

No we're telling you

a. you can do what you want but you don't have the right products to do
it with [you need TS in application mode which SBS cannot do]

b. You can work around it with an install point on the server that
pushes out the software directly to the workstation.

We're not avoiding the issue, unfortunately, you aren't liking the
answers we are giving you which are the only ones we can give you unless you

1. Buy a second server for TS in application mode
2. Buy TS cals for those XPs

You don't have the right parts to do what you want.

You do have the right parts to do an alternative.
Please ....



Sarah,

I might jump in here for a second.

First of all, the idea of a Terminal Server is generally a really good

idea.

I have been using Terminal Server for the last 15 months or so and it is
generally a great thing. As Kevin mentioned, you can no longer install
Terminal Server in Application Mode ( err, that is the WIN2000
terminology.... ) on the SBS2003 Server itself. There are some very good
reasons for this. You would need a second server that would be the

Terminal

Server. On SBS2000 you can indeed do this - but again, not generally a

good

idea to run Terminal Server in Application Mode on a Domain Controller....

However, since you have powerful workstations, you have a really good

point

/ question as to why do you would want to turn them into thin clients. I
would probably not want to do that! Du hast schon das Geld ausgegeben!

Secondly, you can indeed make an Administrative Installation of Office

2003

on your Server and install that application on each workstation from that
Admin Installation. The advantages of doing this are 1) you have a

common,

accessible installation point and 2) you do not have to worry about losing
the Office 2003 CD! However, the disadvantage of doing this (
compared
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

WUS = Windows Update Services
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sus/wusfaq.mspx


--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


Sarah Tanembaum said:
What's WUS? Thanks

Susan Bradley said:
What you are wanting in a TS install of Office which cannot be done on
SBS2003 without an additional server and TS cals.

You don't have the parts to do this.

So why not install office directly on the workstations? When WUS comes
out you can still centrally patch.
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


How many specific file(s) are you talking about? Do you have a list of what
specific files are you mentioning?

Thanks


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message
Please do yourself a favor and look at the Office Resource Kit and the
Windows 2003 (or whatever version of Windows you have) Terminal Services
white papers.

What you are asking has been answered many times here - if it is not the
answer you like, then look for a different vendor/solution. We have all
told you what is and is not possible, the problems inherent in trying to
meet your requests, and have basically given up providing answers that you
do not want to hear.

Office REQUIRES specific files to be installed locally in order to
run.
If
you want a pure server solution, it will not work.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Why not possible?
|
| Thanks.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
| || No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
|| install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on
|| the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when
|| they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
|| the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my
|| personal account will be deleted without reading.
||
|| After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah
|| Tanembaum asked:
||
||| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|||
||| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
||| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|||
||| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
||| Professional.
|||
||| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
||| there
||| a way to run Office from a server?
|||
||| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
||| question as it will add cost per client.
|||
||| Thanks
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 
K

Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]

Sarah, not sure what you mean to imply by saying "now MS [is] admitting" --
since Terminal Services have been provided since at least the NT 4.0 days by
Microsoft (see the 1998 article
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/terminal/tsarchitecture.asp)
and Microsoft continues to make improvements in it every year, and companies
like Citrix continue to improve and adapt their product lines.

But then again, I know you already knew that.
 

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