No White text and Blue background

M

mbanstendig

In WORD, I choose Blue background with White text in the General prefs.

And I get Blue background with black text.

Anyone know what's wrong and how to correct it?

Thanks,

Mark
 
M

mbanstendig

I tried the three prefs.

That did not fix the problem.

Any further help?

Mark
 
M

mbanstendig

Did that, by choosing automatic in the formatting/font menu.

Didn't fix it.

Mark
 
J

John McGhie

Did you have the entire document selected when you did that?

We're floundering around in the dark here because you have not told us what
you are using. We need: Type of Computer (Intel or PPC?), Version of OS?
Version of Word?


Did that, by choosing automatic in the formatting/font menu.

Didn't fix it.

Mark

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M

mbanstendig

Sorry.

It is an Intel Mac Pro quad 3GB w 8GB RAM.

office 2008 Academic.

OS Leopard, fully updated.

Thanks,

Mark
 
J

John McGhie

Ah hah! There's your problem!! Your computer is too expensive to run Word.

Send it to me at once, and you will no longer see the problem!

There are some several issues with OS 10.5.2. Typical Apple, they changed a
whole bunch of stuff without telling their Independent Software Vendors they
were going to make changes.

Apple users will continue to get "High Entertainment Value" from OS upgrades
until Apple learns that big vendors like Microsoft and EndNote and Adobe
need 12 months warning before they reverse the direction of spin of the
Earth :)

Now: If you use the preference to turn on Blue Background, White Text, you
may need to re-start Word to get that change to "take". If you are using
Spaces, all bets are off: Office 2008 did not know that Spaces was coming,
and it is not compatible with it.

Incidentally, someone in here a month ago was raving about how useless Blue
Background, White Text was, and how he cannot imagine why they kept the
feature. I suspect you are one of three users in the World still using it,
so you better start a BBW Blog (if that's what you call it, you will get a
LOT of hits ... :))

There's a Service Pack due out on March 11 for Office 2008. That might
improve the issue. However, yours is the first report of it, so that would
be just "luck" if it does. The other thing is that your Preferences file
might have corrupted.

Try this:

If the following files exist, Remove or rename them:

~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Word Settings (10)

~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Word Settings (11)

User/Library/Preferences/com.Microsoft.Word.plist

No guarantees. Word will re-create the .plist when it restarts. You might
get lucky...

Cheers

Sorry.

It is an Intel Mac Pro quad 3GB w 8GB RAM.

office 2008 Academic.

OS Leopard, fully updated.

Thanks,

Mark

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M

mbanstendig

Just tried everything for recommend. Nothing worked. Not even the restart after choosing the option.

While I appreciate your humor, humor happens to be quite powerful in putting down others, and, therefore, needs comment where it is not quite accurate, or is at least a matter of opinion:

First, I wanted to try out blue/white, because we do have someone here who is partially sight-impaired, only sees poorly out of one eye and sees pure gibberish out of the other eye. After trying almost everything, she uses only white text on blue background, which was recommended by her eye doctor. So it is a common medical recommendation. She uses a PC, and has no problem.

But while we are on the topic, my reason for wanting to try other things is that, at 71 years old, I, too, have touchy eyesight. The black text on white background that Word produces on my Macs is not as pure white in background nor as solid black in font/text as the text produced on the same computer by the application "Mariner Write", and annoys me (I still use Word, not Mariner, because I have to exchange files with people using Word, and prefer to use the same ap they use).

Checking Word help menus, I have not found how to make the background white a purer white and the text darker, purer black, instead of the grayish mess I now get.

Please advise me how to improve, manipulate and choose the background qualities I wish, within a B&W/color/grayscale framework. Pure B&W mode, chosen in the OS's Universal Access prefs, will not do, as I need to insert graphics and others' texts occasionally.

Onwards: Microsoft brought out their new Office 08 when they saw fit, and not all that quickly after Leopard's release. Don't blame Apple for Microsoft not getting things right or bringing out a product before it was finished/proofed. Of course, Apple did the same with Leopard itself, as do almost all other makers with their aps. So the computer world is a mess, due to these practices. But your email sort of put the onus solely on Apple. And new Microsoft OSes seem to have even more problems. So fair is fair.

In any case, White text on Blue background is a valued item for many, despite your acquaintance's rant. Microsoft offers it, and I have lost hours, even days, trying to get it to work. That is the bottom line!!!!!!!

Thanks for the real explanations, though. And please answer the regular-text question!

Mark
 
J

John McGhie

Hi Mark:

Just tried everything for recommend. Nothing worked. Not even the restart
after choosing the option.

Sorry about that: I had very little hope that it would.

There's one more thing we can try. I did not suggest it before, because I
am pretty sure that what you have already done would eliminate it, but for
completeness, we should replace your Normal template.

1) Quit all Microsoft applications.

2) Track down all instances of pre-2008 Normal template on your computer,
and drag them to your desktop. The file is called simply "Normal" and has
no extension.

3) Find and drag the file Normal.dotm to your desktop. Unless you have
moved it, it should be in
/Users/ ~ /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Office/User Templates/My
Templates/

4) Delete:
User/Library/Preferences/com.Microsoft.Word.plist

User/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office 2008 (the whole folder!)

5) Now re-start Word 2008 and try again.

Be thorough with this, if you leave any of these files behind Word 2008 will
find them and re-create the problem. Do it right and Word will construct a
new, clean, set of preferences.
While I appreciate your humor, humor happens to be quite powerful in putting
down others, and, therefore, needs comment where it is not quite accurate, or
is at least a matter of opinion:

Ummm... I had no intention of putting you down. I was making a "joke". It
was not supposed to be 'accurate'. If it had been accurate, methinks it
would not have been funny...

I guess it may be relevant to know that the people helping in here are ALL
doing it as a leisure activity. We are all volunteers, none of us work for
Microsoft, and we want to have a little fun along the way. Actually, that's
not quite true: You will see some Microsoft engineers in here occasionally
at the moment, helping us out with the new product. But most of THEM are
also here in their own time, (or their boss is probably on their case about
the time they're spending in here...)
gibberish out of the other eye. After trying almost everything, she uses only
white text on blue background, which was recommended by her eye doctor. So it
is a common medical recommendation. She uses a PC, and has no problem.

An eye doctor I worked with for another instance of such a problem
recommended amber on black or green on black. So I am not sure how 'common'
it is. However, Word won't do those either.

I figured you had a reason for wanting it, but I suggest that you need to
find another way to achieve the requirement. Particularly, study the
information Apple publishes on Universal Access.
Checking Word help menus, I have not found how to make the background white a
purer white and the text darker, purer black, instead of the grayish mess I
now get.

You are right: Word has no ability to adjust its display colours. Word
2007 makes an attempt with different colour schemes. However, both will
take your computer's word for it that what it is sending as "white" is
actually white.

You may wish to have a play with your monitor/graphics card's gamma,
contrast, brightness, and colour temperature adjustments.

I assume you know how to set these: if not, come back and we'll give you
some hints.
Onwards: Microsoft brought out their new Office 08 when they saw fit, and not
all that quickly after Leopard's release.

In large-scale software development (and Office is large-scale, even on the
Mac) features and functionality are basically locked down 12 months before
on-sale date. Anything else leads to disaster.
Don't blame Apple for Microsoft not
getting things right or bringing out a product before it was finished/proofed.

{Giggle} I don't. I blame Apple for some of the problems you are
experiencing, which were directly caused by changes to the way the operating
system works, made after Microsoft's design was fixed. Microsoft gets the
blame for all the ones it should have gotten right and didn't :)
But your email sort of put the onus solely on Apple. And new
Microsoft OSes seem to have even more problems. So fair is fair.

At least no Vendor can say they didn't get enough warning about Vista
(that's a joke...) :)

I suspect, without being able to prove it, that your problem is due to
Spaces, and if so, yep, that one is Apple's fault. Microsoft did not find
out about Spaces, let alone see how it worked, until the retail copy
arrived. And that was far too late to design in compatibility with it.
In any case, White text on Blue background is a valued item for many, despite
your acquaintance's rant. Microsoft offers it, and I have lost hours, even
days, trying to get it to work. That is the bottom line!!!!!!!

Well, my comments about starting a support site for White on Blue were only
partly in jest. Microsoft will likely soon remove the feature. I suspect
that the only reason it's still around is because for Office 2008, they
calculated that it would be more expensive to take it out than it would be
to leave it in. It has already been removed from Word 2007.

You actually are one of about five users I have heard of that use it. The
only reason I know about it is that I began supporting users in Word for
DOS, where it was the standard display, back in 1991.

So I suggest that you urgently start letting Microsoft know that you want
it. You and everyone else who uses it. Because currently their research
data shows that "nobody" is using the feature, and it's planned to be
removed.

When you installed Office 2008, it asked you if you wanted to participate in
the Customer Experience Improvement Program. If you said 'yes', Microsoft
now knows that there is 'someone' out there using Blue Background, White
Text. They do not, of course, know "who". But they will get a report that
shows them there is someone out there.

If you turned it off, you may care to turn it back on. It's one of the most
important ways that they learn about people's preferences and problems with
the product.

You should also use Help>Send Feedback to advise them directly, and get
everyone else you know who uses the feature to do so too. You will need
maybe one to ten thousand votes to keep the feature.
Thanks for the real explanations, though. And please answer the regular-text
question!

I will try, if I can find it. Not all of the questions seem to be making it
out to the news server where we volunteer. Note that I am not blaming Apple
for that one! :)

Cheers

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M

mbanstendig

Well.

Nothing worked.

And you certainly aren't about to give up the last word, if anyone has the patience and time to read all of it.

The feature exists and doesn't work.

That is the bottom line.

Thanks for the help.

Mark
 
C

Clive Huggan

You see there, John?

Stop being friendly. Get rid of that Aussie humour -- we need Funeral
Directors mode. No discursiveness. Stop giving people the underlying
reasons for a problem occurring -- crikey, they might gain insights into
Word's labyrinthine oddities! They might even come back and ... contribute!

ONE-LINERS, DO YOU HEAR!!!!

Time to forget about microsoft.public.mac.office.word newsgroup arguably
being the most attentive, friendliest volunteer-run help group on the
Internet, thanks in no small measure to your example.

Oh, golly gosh -- I've been loquacious...

Sometimes I wonder why we bother.

But maybe he was just a bit hormonal.

Clive
======
 
M

mbanstendig

I have to admit that John originally gave me the impression that he was a Microsoft employee stepping in to help with something until then unsolved.

Sorry.

As someone with mercifully small and also getting smaller macular holes in both eyes, I suppose I am somewhat serious, if not morose, about things to help people better see their computer work.

I am sorry I took some of his tone the wrong way. It just cut somewhat close to me and others, especially those who do use white on blue all the time, after trying out a lot of possibilities.

I appreciate your forums and hope to use them again.

Apologies.

Ever very best,

Mark B Anstendig
915 Fulton Street
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-775-3575
(e-mail address removed)
 
P

Phillip Jones

John said:
Hi Mark:



Sorry about that: I had very little hope that it would.

There's one more thing we can try. I did not suggest it before, because I
am pretty sure that what you have already done would eliminate it, but for
completeness, we should replace your Normal template.

1) Quit all Microsoft applications.

2) Track down all instances of pre-2008 Normal template on your computer,
and drag them to your desktop. The file is called simply "Normal" and has
no extension.

3) Find and drag the file Normal.dotm to your desktop. Unless you have
moved it, it should be in
/Users/ ~ /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Office/User Templates/My
Templates/

4) Delete:
User/Library/Preferences/com.Microsoft.Word.plist

User/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office 2008 (the whole folder!)

5) Now re-start Word 2008 and try again.

Be thorough with this, if you leave any of these files behind Word 2008 will
find them and re-create the problem. Do it right and Word will construct a
new, clean, set of preferences.


Ummm... I had no intention of putting you down. I was making a "joke". It
was not supposed to be 'accurate'. If it had been accurate, methinks it
would not have been funny...

I guess it may be relevant to know that the people helping in here are ALL
doing it as a leisure activity. We are all volunteers, none of us work for
Microsoft, and we want to have a little fun along the way. Actually, that's
not quite true: You will see some Microsoft engineers in here occasionally
at the moment, helping us out with the new product. But most of THEM are
also here in their own time, (or their boss is probably on their case about
the time they're spending in here...)


An eye doctor I worked with for another instance of such a problem
recommended amber on black or green on black. So I am not sure how 'common'
it is. However, Word won't do those either.


I find this subject fascinating. Years ago when working with school
system everyone was using some version of WordPerfect 5.x on PC. one of
the neat features it had was the ability to choose within the
application preferences what Background color and font color you wanted
to use. Even then for me Yellow Background and black print was (and
still is when I use Mozilla SeaMonkey Newsreader/email client and to
view the web)

To think how far ahead of times the WP Programmers were back then.
I figured you had a reason for wanting it, but I suggest that you need to
find another way to achieve the requirement. Particularly, study the
information Apple publishes on Universal Access.


You are right: Word has no ability to adjust its display colours. Word
2007 makes an attempt with different colour schemes. However, both will
take your computer's word for it that what it is sending as "white" is
actually white.

You may wish to have a play with your monitor/graphics card's gamma,
contrast, brightness, and colour temperature adjustments.

I assume you know how to set these: if not, come back and we'll give you
some hints.


In large-scale software development (and Office is large-scale, even on the
Mac) features and functionality are basically locked down 12 months before
on-sale date. Anything else leads to disaster.


{Giggle} I don't. I blame Apple for some of the problems you are
experiencing, which were directly caused by changes to the way the operating
system works, made after Microsoft's design was fixed. Microsoft gets the
blame for all the ones it should have gotten right and didn't :)


At least no Vendor can say they didn't get enough warning about Vista
(that's a joke...) :)

I suspect, without being able to prove it, that your problem is due to
Spaces, and if so, yep, that one is Apple's fault. Microsoft did not find
out about Spaces, let alone see how it worked, until the retail copy
arrived. And that was far too late to design in compatibility with it.


Well, my comments about starting a support site for White on Blue were only
partly in jest. Microsoft will likely soon remove the feature. I suspect
that the only reason it's still around is because for Office 2008, they
calculated that it would be more expensive to take it out than it would be
to leave it in. It has already been removed from Word 2007.

You actually are one of about five users I have heard of that use it. The
only reason I know about it is that I began supporting users in Word for
DOS, where it was the standard display, back in 1991.

So I suggest that you urgently start letting Microsoft know that you want
it. You and everyone else who uses it. Because currently their research
data shows that "nobody" is using the feature, and it's planned to be
removed.

When you installed Office 2008, it asked you if you wanted to participate in
the Customer Experience Improvement Program. If you said 'yes', Microsoft
now knows that there is 'someone' out there using Blue Background, White
Text. They do not, of course, know "who". But they will get a report that
shows them there is someone out there.

If you turned it off, you may care to turn it back on. It's one of the most
important ways that they learn about people's preferences and problems with
the product.

You should also use Help>Send Feedback to advise them directly, and get
everyone else you know who uses the feature to do so too. You will need
maybe one to ten thousand votes to keep the feature.


I will try, if I can find it. Not all of the questions seem to be making it
out to the news server where we volunteer. Note that I am not blaming Apple
for that one! :)

Cheers

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Phillip Jones

Just tried everything for recommend. Nothing worked. Not even the
restart after choosing the option.

While I appreciate your humor, humor happens to be quite powerful in
putting down others, and, therefore, needs comment where it is not
quite accurate, or is at least a matter of opinion:

First, I wanted to try out blue/white, because we do have someone
here who is partially sight-impaired, only sees poorly out of one eye
and sees pure gibberish out of the other eye. After trying almost
everything, she uses only white text on blue background, which was
recommended by her eye doctor. So it is a common medical
recommendation. She uses a PC, and has no problem.

But while we are on the topic, my reason for wanting to try other
things is that, at 71 years old, I, too, have touchy eyesight. The
black text on white background that Word produces on my Macs is not
as pure white in background nor as solid black in font/text as the
text produced on the same computer by the application "Mariner
Write", and annoys me (I still use Word, not Mariner, because I have
to exchange files with people using Word, and prefer to use the same
ap they use).

Checking Word help menus, I have not found how to make the background
white a purer white and the text darker, purer black, instead of the
grayish mess I now get.

Please advise me how to improve, manipulate and choose the background
qualities I wish, within a B&W/color/grayscale framework. Pure B&W
mode, chosen in the OS's Universal Access prefs, will not do, as I
need to insert graphics and others' texts occasionally.

Onwards: Microsoft brought out their new Office 08 when they saw fit,
and not all that quickly after Leopard's release. Don't blame Apple
for Microsoft not getting things right or bringing out a product
before it was finished/proofed. Of course, Apple did the same with
Leopard itself, as do almost all other makers with their aps. So the
computer world is a mess, due to these practices. But your email sort
of put the onus solely on Apple. And new Microsoft OSes seem to have
even more problems. So fair is fair.

In any case, White text on Blue background is a valued item for many,
despite your acquaintance's rant. Microsoft offers it, and I have
lost hours, even days, trying to get it to work. That is the bottom
line!!!!!!!

Thanks for the real explanations, though. And please answer the
regular-text question!

Mark

I can't help with your word problem on this particular issue.

But, if your using an external Monitor you can try for your setup going
to system Preferences> (Monitor)Displays and click on the Color tab.

then use that to set the colors. You set the brightness, contrast, you
even have a color chart where you can drag the white point around until
you get the true white (as you view it) also you can change the white
Balance value from 1.8 (mac setting to 2.2 which is PC setting) its
possible the PC setting will do for you.

when you go into this color settings you run through a series of menu
choices you select before clicking and going to the next. when you get
through save with a name and choose this setting when you need to use
it, set back to normal when someone else uses your monitor.

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Clive Huggan

That's a good point, Phillip.

It prompts me to think of other things that can be configured in Word's
settings so that new blank documents open with those characteristics. For
example, zoom the view to a size that suits; maybe apply a colour to the
body text font (my son does that; he's a little dyslexic and tires of
reading quickly but it hardly exists when the text is a certain shade of
blue); and choose a font -- e.g. Tahoma -- that is easier to read on screen.
All these, as you know, can be quickly modified before printing.

Cheers,
Clive
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J

Jeff Wiseman

Clive said:
You see there, John?

Stop being friendly. Get rid of that Aussie humour -- we need Funeral
Directors mode. No discursiveness. Stop giving people the underlying
reasons for a problem occurring -- crikey, they might gain insights into
Word's labyrinthine oddities! They might even come back and ... contribute!


Don't listen to him John. Because of the extras in your
explanations, I now know enough to not only be dangerous, but
people actually come into my office to ask questions.

And without that, nobody would ever come to see me...

ONE-LINERS, DO YOU HEAR!!!!


Hey, nobody has ever heard much of a one-liner from me (although
that's probably not a good thing)

Time to forget about microsoft.public.mac.office.word newsgroup arguably
being the most attentive, friendliest volunteer-run help group on the
Internet, thanks in no small measure to your example.


Amen! But therein lies part of the problem. This group actually
WORKS like it should with rich help and discussion systems
functioning daily. That really *IS* SUSPICIOUS if you come in
from many other groups. Normally, if you get a "John M" length
response on your first try, it is normally full of useless
self-serving attitude stuff.

Oh, golly gosh -- I've been loquacious...


Oh Clive, I love you! You have just given me the first real
opportunity to use my Dictionary/Thesaurus that came with my new
Tiger OS.

Let's see....."a loquacious little boy: talkative, voluble,
communicative, expansive, garrulous, unreserved, chatty, gossipy,
gossiping; informal having the gift of gab, gabby, gassy,
motormouthed, talky, windy. See note at talkative . antonym
reticent, taciturn".

I sure like that word a lot more than the "Word" I have to use
daily :)

Sometimes I wonder why we bother.


Keep bothering. It's just those new folks coming in all soaked
and strung-out from other news group experiences that just take a
little while to realize that the folks helping here are real.
Once people realize that honest efforts are being made to help
here, they tend to hang around.

Again, the behaviors seen in this group have the appearance of
quality help. In today's world of the Internet, that is REALLY
suspicious. It's to be expected that it will throw some folks off
initially :)
 
C

Clive Huggan

On 6/3/08 1:31 PM, in article (e-mail address removed), "Jeff

Again, the behaviors seen in this group have the appearance of
quality help. In today's world of the Internet, that is REALLY
suspicious. It's to be expected that it will throw some folks off
initially :)

How right you are, Jeff (and your other comments). And Mark, the original
poster, kindly came back to clarify things. No harm done all round.

Um, I could post the full Oxford English Dictionary etymology for
"loquacious" for you to enjoy. Problem is, every time I open up one of the
20 volumes, with the lovely, tactile paper, I'm lost for several hours...

No -- I've got to get back to work!

CH
===
 
J

John McGhie

Hi Mark:

No problem. We get blamed for Microsoft's sins -- egregious and otherwise
-- all the time. Sorta comes with the territory :)

Nope: Clive and I are almost as "chronologically enhanced" as you are (well
-- he's older and grumpier than I am... But not much...).

Sadly, the line below the bottom line is that the feature only survived
until now because it was too expensive to take it out last time. It will
almost certainly be gone in the next version.

I did offer some other suggestions that may make some improvements, if you
read down that far.

Cheers


I have to admit that John originally gave me the impression that he was a
Microsoft employee stepping in to help with something until then unsolved.

Sorry.

As someone with mercifully small and also getting smaller macular holes in
both eyes, I suppose I am somewhat serious, if not morose, about things to
help people better see their computer work.

I am sorry I took some of his tone the wrong way. It just cut somewhat close
to me and others, especially those who do use white on blue all the time,
after trying out a lot of possibilities.

I appreciate your forums and hope to use them again.

Apologies.

Ever very best,

Mark B Anstendig
915 Fulton Street
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-775-3575
(e-mail address removed)

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Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
J

John McGhie

Hi Clive:

Sorry!!

Cheers


You see there, John?

Stop being friendly. Get rid of that Aussie humour -- we need Funeral
Directors mode. No discursiveness. Stop giving people the underlying
reasons for a problem occurring -- crikey, they might gain insights into
Word's labyrinthine oddities! They might even come back and ... contribute!

ONE-LINERS, DO YOU HEAR!!!!

Time to forget about microsoft.public.mac.office.word newsgroup arguably
being the most attentive, friendliest volunteer-run help group on the
Internet, thanks in no small measure to your example.

Oh, golly gosh -- I've been loquacious...

Sometimes I wonder why we bother.

But maybe he was just a bit hormonal.

Clive
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Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 

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