Office 2003 and Proofing Tools 2003 problem

[Roger R]

I have office 2003 (comes with proofing tools for English, French and
Spanish).

I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003.

It does not appear to check my Italian documents for spelling or grammar.
Where am I going wrong?

Details:
If I open Word 2003 and go: Tools/language/set language
Info box shows Italian above the line break and tickedABC.

If I go:
Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/Office 2003/Change/Add or remove
Features/Advanced customisation/Office shared features/Proofing Tools.
This shows only the three default English,Spanish,French. If I further
click on Update it does 'something' but doesn't say what, and afterwards the
language set is unchanged.

Open Word and open an Italian document with obvious spelling and grammar
errors nothing happens.
No red or green error signifiers as per a document in English.

Clicking 'check spelling' button produces 'document spell checked ok'. but
clearly it hasn't.

Please advise

Roger R

 

[Terry Farrell]

You need to purchase the Office language pack from a Microsoft Retailer. As
you said, you only get English, French and Spanish out of the box (this
obviously varies depending on your locale).

 

[Terry Farrell]

You need to purchase the Office language pack from a Microsoft Retailer. As
you said, you only get English, French and Spanish out of the box (this
obviously varies depending on your locale).

 

[Terry Farrell]

You need to purchase the Office language pack from a Microsoft Retailer. As
you said, you only get English, French and Spanish out of the box (this
obviously varies depending on your locale).

 

[Terry Farrell]

You need to purchase the Office language pack from a Microsoft Retailer. As
you said, you only get English, French and Spanish out of the box (this
obviously varies depending on your locale).

 

[Roger R]

Very quick. Now try reading it again.

"I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003"

Proofing Tools 2003 contains the spelling and grammer proofing tools for 50
languages.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Very quick. Now try reading it again.

"I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003"

Proofing Tools 2003 contains the spelling and grammer proofing tools for 50
languages.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Very quick. Now try reading it again.

"I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003"

Proofing Tools 2003 contains the spelling and grammer proofing tools for 50
languages.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Very quick. Now try reading it again.

"I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003"

Proofing Tools 2003 contains the spelling and grammer proofing tools for 50
languages.

Roger R

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roger,

The Office 2003 Proofing Tools Kit should show as a separate installation item in Add/Remove Programs, rather than as part of
Microsoft Office 2003.

If you go to
Start=>Programs=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
and bring up the languge settings tools is Italian listed as enabled?

If you highlight some text in an open document and use Tools=>Language is 'italian' what comes up as the language that Word 'sees'
assigned to that text?

==========
I have office 2003 (comes with proofing tools for English, French and
Spanish).

I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003.

It does not appear to check my Italian documents for spelling or grammar.
Where am I going wrong?

Details:
If I open Word 2003 and go: Tools/language/set language
Info box shows Italian above the line break and tickedABC.

If I go:
Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/Office 2003/Change/Add or remove
Features/Advanced customisation/Office shared features/Proofing Tools.
This shows only the three default English,Spanish,French. If I further
click on Update it does 'something' but doesn't say what, and afterwards the
language set is unchanged.

Open Word and open an Italian document with obvious spelling and grammar
errors nothing happens.
No red or green error signifiers as per a document in English.

Clicking 'check spelling' button produces 'document spell checked ok'. but
clearly it hasn't.

Please advise

Roger R>>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roger,

The Office 2003 Proofing Tools Kit should show as a separate installation item in Add/Remove Programs, rather than as part of
Microsoft Office 2003.

If you go to
Start=>Programs=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
and bring up the languge settings tools is Italian listed as enabled?

If you highlight some text in an open document and use Tools=>Language is 'italian' what comes up as the language that Word 'sees'
assigned to that text?

==========
I have office 2003 (comes with proofing tools for English, French and
Spanish).

I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003.

It does not appear to check my Italian documents for spelling or grammar.
Where am I going wrong?

Details:
If I open Word 2003 and go: Tools/language/set language
Info box shows Italian above the line break and tickedABC.

If I go:
Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/Office 2003/Change/Add or remove
Features/Advanced customisation/Office shared features/Proofing Tools.
This shows only the three default English,Spanish,French. If I further
click on Update it does 'something' but doesn't say what, and afterwards the
language set is unchanged.

Open Word and open an Italian document with obvious spelling and grammar
errors nothing happens.
No red or green error signifiers as per a document in English.

Clicking 'check spelling' button produces 'document spell checked ok'. but
clearly it hasn't.

Please advise

Roger R>>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roger,

The Office 2003 Proofing Tools Kit should show as a separate installation item in Add/Remove Programs, rather than as part of
Microsoft Office 2003.

If you go to
Start=>Programs=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
and bring up the languge settings tools is Italian listed as enabled?

If you highlight some text in an open document and use Tools=>Language is 'italian' what comes up as the language that Word 'sees'
assigned to that text?

==========
I have office 2003 (comes with proofing tools for English, French and
Spanish).

I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003.

It does not appear to check my Italian documents for spelling or grammar.
Where am I going wrong?

Details:
If I open Word 2003 and go: Tools/language/set language
Info box shows Italian above the line break and tickedABC.

If I go:
Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/Office 2003/Change/Add or remove
Features/Advanced customisation/Office shared features/Proofing Tools.
This shows only the three default English,Spanish,French. If I further
click on Update it does 'something' but doesn't say what, and afterwards the
language set is unchanged.

Open Word and open an Italian document with obvious spelling and grammar
errors nothing happens.
No red or green error signifiers as per a document in English.

Clicking 'check spelling' button produces 'document spell checked ok'. but
clearly it hasn't.

Please advise

Roger R>>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roger,

The Office 2003 Proofing Tools Kit should show as a separate installation item in Add/Remove Programs, rather than as part of
Microsoft Office 2003.

If you go to
Start=>Programs=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
and bring up the languge settings tools is Italian listed as enabled?

If you highlight some text in an open document and use Tools=>Language is 'italian' what comes up as the language that Word 'sees'
assigned to that text?

==========
I have office 2003 (comes with proofing tools for English, French and
Spanish).

I needed Italian so have additionally installed Proofing Tools 2003.

It does not appear to check my Italian documents for spelling or grammar.
Where am I going wrong?

Details:
If I open Word 2003 and go: Tools/language/set language
Info box shows Italian above the line break and tickedABC.

If I go:
Control Panel/Add or Remove Programs/Office 2003/Change/Add or remove
Features/Advanced customisation/Office shared features/Proofing Tools.
This shows only the three default English,Spanish,French. If I further
click on Update it does 'something' but doesn't say what, and afterwards the
language set is unchanged.

Open Word and open an Italian document with obvious spelling and grammar
errors nothing happens.
No red or green error signifiers as per a document in English.

Clicking 'check spelling' button produces 'document spell checked ok'. but
clearly it hasn't.

Please advise

Roger R>>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Roger R]

Bob Buckland,
Some progress with this, working (sort of) after going through your points.
I'll try and answer the questions:

Q1. Office 2003 Proofing Tools does show as a separate item in the
Add/Remove Programs.

Q2 .In Microsoft Office Tools, Italian is shown enabled, that is it is
shown in the right hand box as the second item, the first (and only other)
being English.

Q3. With an Italian language document open in Word, going
Tools/Language/(the option is then Set Language)

A box opens with three languages above a line and a great many others below.
Presumably those above the line are the ones installed.
The ones above the line are 1. English UK, 2. English US, 3. Italian. A
'List of Three' in this case

The List of Three: (installed languages)
Though I have been to this window before, apparently it is necessary to
double click on Italian to bring it to the top of the list. Only the
language at the top of the list is activated, even though the check box
'Detect Language Automatically' is checked. If this is not done when the
box 'Do NOT check spelling and grammar' is unchecked and click out ok, the
selected text is checked and many errors highlighted, but when the
spellchecker is opened, the default language is the one at the top of the
List of Three, and though many other language options are selectable,
Italian is not one of them.

Another wrinkle in the installed languages dialogue box is the check box for
'Do NOT check spelling or grammar'. This appears to be always checked at
first opening, after unchecking and closing out ok, it returns checked if
opened again. So disabled appears to be default.

So the progress...
Unchecking 'Do NOT check spelling or grammar' and clicking out ok, causes
errors in the 'selected' text to be green underlined.
Click: Tools/Spelling and Grammar then opens spellchecker in Italian for
the 'selected' text (but no longer highlighted).

So with your help I think I'm there, but it is a of a bit rigmarole. In Word
I'd expected the spellchecker to behave in the installed language just as it
does in the default language, checking the whole document immediately on
opening after automatically detecting the document language and with having
to select any text, and checking the whole document as I went along. I
believe that is how it is 'supposed ' to work.

Thanks for your help, and apologies if my descriptions are somewhat
confusing to follow.
Pleased to expand on any confusing point.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Bob Buckland,
Some progress with this, working (sort of) after going through your points.
I'll try and answer the questions:

Q1. Office 2003 Proofing Tools does show as a separate item in the
Add/Remove Programs.

Q2 .In Microsoft Office Tools, Italian is shown enabled, that is it is
shown in the right hand box as the second item, the first (and only other)
being English.

Q3. With an Italian language document open in Word, going
Tools/Language/(the option is then Set Language)

A box opens with three languages above a line and a great many others below.
Presumably those above the line are the ones installed.
The ones above the line are 1. English UK, 2. English US, 3. Italian. A
'List of Three' in this case

The List of Three: (installed languages)
Though I have been to this window before, apparently it is necessary to
double click on Italian to bring it to the top of the list. Only the
language at the top of the list is activated, even though the check box
'Detect Language Automatically' is checked. If this is not done when the
box 'Do NOT check spelling and grammar' is unchecked and click out ok, the
selected text is checked and many errors highlighted, but when the
spellchecker is opened, the default language is the one at the top of the
List of Three, and though many other language options are selectable,
Italian is not one of them.

Another wrinkle in the installed languages dialogue box is the check box for
'Do NOT check spelling or grammar'. This appears to be always checked at
first opening, after unchecking and closing out ok, it returns checked if
opened again. So disabled appears to be default.

So the progress...
Unchecking 'Do NOT check spelling or grammar' and clicking out ok, causes
errors in the 'selected' text to be green underlined.
Click: Tools/Spelling and Grammar then opens spellchecker in Italian for
the 'selected' text (but no longer highlighted).

So with your help I think I'm there, but it is a of a bit rigmarole. In Word
I'd expected the spellchecker to behave in the installed language just as it
does in the default language, checking the whole document immediately on
opening after automatically detecting the document language and with having
to select any text, and checking the whole document as I went along. I
believe that is how it is 'supposed ' to work.

Thanks for your help, and apologies if my descriptions are somewhat
confusing to follow.
Pleased to expand on any confusing point.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Bob Buckland,
Some progress with this, working (sort of) after going through your points.
I'll try and answer the questions:

Q1. Office 2003 Proofing Tools does show as a separate item in the
Add/Remove Programs.

Q2 .In Microsoft Office Tools, Italian is shown enabled, that is it is
shown in the right hand box as the second item, the first (and only other)
being English.

Q3. With an Italian language document open in Word, going
Tools/Language/(the option is then Set Language)

A box opens with three languages above a line and a great many others below.
Presumably those above the line are the ones installed.
The ones above the line are 1. English UK, 2. English US, 3. Italian. A
'List of Three' in this case

The List of Three: (installed languages)
Though I have been to this window before, apparently it is necessary to
double click on Italian to bring it to the top of the list. Only the
language at the top of the list is activated, even though the check box
'Detect Language Automatically' is checked. If this is not done when the
box 'Do NOT check spelling and grammar' is unchecked and click out ok, the
selected text is checked and many errors highlighted, but when the
spellchecker is opened, the default language is the one at the top of the
List of Three, and though many other language options are selectable,
Italian is not one of them.

Another wrinkle in the installed languages dialogue box is the check box for
'Do NOT check spelling or grammar'. This appears to be always checked at
first opening, after unchecking and closing out ok, it returns checked if
opened again. So disabled appears to be default.

So the progress...
Unchecking 'Do NOT check spelling or grammar' and clicking out ok, causes
errors in the 'selected' text to be green underlined.
Click: Tools/Spelling and Grammar then opens spellchecker in Italian for
the 'selected' text (but no longer highlighted).

So with your help I think I'm there, but it is a of a bit rigmarole. In Word
I'd expected the spellchecker to behave in the installed language just as it
does in the default language, checking the whole document immediately on
opening after automatically detecting the document language and with having
to select any text, and checking the whole document as I went along. I
believe that is how it is 'supposed ' to work.

Thanks for your help, and apologies if my descriptions are somewhat
confusing to follow.
Pleased to expand on any confusing point.

Roger R

 

[Roger R]

Bob Buckland,
Some progress with this, working (sort of) after going through your points.
I'll try and answer the questions:

Q1. Office 2003 Proofing Tools does show as a separate item in the
Add/Remove Programs.

Q2 .In Microsoft Office Tools, Italian is shown enabled, that is it is
shown in the right hand box as the second item, the first (and only other)
being English.

Q3. With an Italian language document open in Word, going
Tools/Language/(the option is then Set Language)

A box opens with three languages above a line and a great many others below.
Presumably those above the line are the ones installed.
The ones above the line are 1. English UK, 2. English US, 3. Italian. A
'List of Three' in this case

The List of Three: (installed languages)
Though I have been to this window before, apparently it is necessary to
double click on Italian to bring it to the top of the list. Only the
language at the top of the list is activated, even though the check box
'Detect Language Automatically' is checked. If this is not done when the
box 'Do NOT check spelling and grammar' is unchecked and click out ok, the
selected text is checked and many errors highlighted, but when the
spellchecker is opened, the default language is the one at the top of the
List of Three, and though many other language options are selectable,
Italian is not one of them.

Another wrinkle in the installed languages dialogue box is the check box for
'Do NOT check spelling or grammar'. This appears to be always checked at
first opening, after unchecking and closing out ok, it returns checked if
opened again. So disabled appears to be default.

So the progress...
Unchecking 'Do NOT check spelling or grammar' and clicking out ok, causes
errors in the 'selected' text to be green underlined.
Click: Tools/Spelling and Grammar then opens spellchecker in Italian for
the 'selected' text (but no longer highlighted).

So with your help I think I'm there, but it is a of a bit rigmarole. In Word
I'd expected the spellchecker to behave in the installed language just as it
does in the default language, checking the whole document immediately on
opening after automatically detecting the document language and with having
to select any text, and checking the whole document as I went along. I
believe that is how it is 'supposed ' to work.

Thanks for your help, and apologies if my descriptions are somewhat
confusing to follow.
Pleased to expand on any confusing point.

Roger R

 

[Terry Farrell]

Guilty. I didn't read it fully as normally this question pops up when the
user hasn't got the Language pack!

But having now read the rest of the thread...

After installing the language pack through add/remove programs, I still
think you need to go to the Office Language Setting utility under Office
Tools to actually add Italian (and whichever other languages you need).
Otherwise they are available but not installed.

Terry

 

[Terry Farrell]

Guilty. I didn't read it fully as normally this question pops up when the
user hasn't got the Language pack!

But having now read the rest of the thread...

After installing the language pack through add/remove programs, I still
think you need to go to the Office Language Setting utility under Office
Tools to actually add Italian (and whichever other languages you need).
Otherwise they are available but not installed.

Terry

 

[Terry Farrell]

Guilty. I didn't read it fully as normally this question pops up when the
user hasn't got the Language pack!

But having now read the rest of the thread...

After installing the language pack through add/remove programs, I still
think you need to go to the Office Language Setting utility under Office
Tools to actually add Italian (and whichever other languages you need).
Otherwise they are available but not installed.

Terry