Outlook 2003 System Tray Icon

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

I always thought "newsgroups" and "frenzy" were synonymous
Thanks for trying to put out this brushfire while I was away, Michael.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Well handled Russ. Thank you for that. As I stated earlier, the MS
newsgroups are in a frenzy this weekend for some reason. I totally
appreciate your professionalism in this matter.

--
Michael D. Alligood,
MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+,
Network+, i-Net+, CIW Assoc.,
CIW Certified Instructor

You banished me from this thread but I'd like to reply with your
permission.
(I hadn't exactly noticed your being nice. I did notice your being very
insulting, but that of course is your prerogative).
I was indeed wrong and would have gladly admitted it. I just completely
misunderstood your question, which was how to keep Outlook 2003 from
appearing AT ALL in the System Tray, not just how to keep it from
minimizing
to the System Tray. That behavior is so thoroughly documented in Help
files
I assumed you already knew that part. Ironically, that feature was added
deliberately to Outlook 2003 in direct response to users' requests.
In the end it appears that your issue is more with Windows XP and how its
System Tray functions than with Outlook.
I am sorry for misunderstanding your question and thereby providing the
wrong information. Please try not to be too hasty when judging others.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I guess that fact that he was wrong and failed to understand the
problem before prescribing a solution is lost on you. That is the mark
of a very poor problem solver, whether we're talking Outlook or
medicine.

You should really quit while you're behind, and while I'm still being
nice.

Let's hope that if you ever need a cardiologist, he is half as
competent
as Russ - and that you are a lot more able to accurately listen to the
doctor's instructions.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| Let's all hope for his patients' sakes that he reads his cardiology
| texts more thoroughly than he reads usenet postings.
|
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
|| Funny you should say that about an eminent Cardiologist.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
|||| Yes, Russ already told you but you choose to not believe him.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| No, actually, Russ has a problem with reading comprehension and has
||| no idea what he is talking about.
|||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||||
||||| Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
|||||| He expects a program to run without appearing on either the
|||||| Taskbar or the System Tray? Odd.
|||||
||||| If you read the original post I said nothing about the taskbar,
||||| only the system tray. Of course I expect whatever application I
||||| open to be present in the taskbar. What I don't like is the icon
||||| in the system tray.
|||||
||||| Do you know the difference between the system tray and the
||||| taskbar? I'm beginning to think that either you do not, or you
||||| are not capable of discerning the difference. If either of these
||||| is true, I invite you to not participate in further discussion in
||||| this thread.
|||||
||||| The following is for people who understand my question -
|||||
||||| Right now I have Opera, Firefox, Thunderbird and Outlook all
open,
||||| and only Outlook demands that it have an icon in the system tray.
||||| Outlook 97 didn't require an icon in the system tray, and yet
||||| Outlook 2003 does.
|||||
||||| Is there a way to get rid of this icon while leaving "Hide
||||| Inactive Icons" unchecked?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
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|||||| Russ Valentine
|||||| [MVP-Outlook]
|||||| |||||||
|||||||| Not at all, but you are.
|||||||| You said you didn't want Outlook minimized to the System Tray.
|||||||| I told you how to do stop that behavior.
|||||||
||||||| My reading is that he wants to ditch the icon in the
||||||| Notification Area altogether. As far as I know, there's no way
||||||| to do that so it's "on to another calendar", as he put it.
||||||| --
||||||| Brian Tillman

 

[mr.sandog]

Thanks for your answer admitting that you didn't understand my very
simple question. I was as about as clear as could be in my first post.
Indeed, you got it completely wrong, and continued to get it wrong in
all of your replies, a couple of which were pretty condescending. Then
I had to fight with your proxy while you were away - someone who, like
you, didn't get it and was more concerned with defending you than
actually re-reading the question to see that she had it wrong, too.
What a ridiculous load of bullocks to have to deal with in a supposedly
technical forum.

And no, it is not an issue with XP, it is an issue with the
application. Every other application I run has somewere in its control
panel a means to disable the System Tray icon. This is the convention
for a reason. Having the option to have it there is one thing, but
forcing me to have it there is just poor development and UAT.

You banished me from this thread but I'd like to reply with your permission.
(I hadn't exactly noticed your being nice. I did notice your being very
insulting, but that of course is your prerogative).
I was indeed wrong and would have gladly admitted it. I just completely
misunderstood your question, which was how to keep Outlook 2003 from
appearing AT ALL in the System Tray, not just how to keep it from minimizing
to the System Tray. That behavior is so thoroughly documented in Help files
I assumed you already knew that part. Ironically, that feature was added
deliberately to Outlook 2003 in direct response to users' requests.
In the end it appears that your issue is more with Windows XP and how its
System Tray functions than with Outlook.
I am sorry for misunderstanding your question and thereby providing the
wrong information. Please try not to be too hasty when judging others.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I guess that fact that he was wrong and failed to understand the
problem before prescribing a solution is lost on you. That is the mark
of a very poor problem solver, whether we're talking Outlook or
medicine.

You should really quit while you're behind, and while I'm still being
nice.

Let's hope that if you ever need a cardiologist, he is half as competent
as Russ - and that you are a lot more able to accurately listen to the
doctor's instructions.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:

| Let's all hope for his patients' sakes that he reads his cardiology
| texts more thoroughly than he reads usenet postings.
|
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
|| Funny you should say that about an eminent Cardiologist.
||
|| --
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||
||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
|||| Yes, Russ already told you but you choose to not believe him.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
|||
||| No, actually, Russ has a problem with reading comprehension and has
||| no idea what he is talking about.
|||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, (e-mail address removed) asked:
||||
||||| Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
|||||| He expects a program to run without appearing on either the
|||||| Taskbar or the System Tray? Odd.
|||||
||||| If you read the original post I said nothing about the taskbar,
||||| only the system tray. Of course I expect whatever application I
||||| open to be present in the taskbar. What I don't like is the icon
||||| in the system tray.
|||||
||||| Do you know the difference between the system tray and the
||||| taskbar? I'm beginning to think that either you do not, or you
||||| are not capable of discerning the difference. If either of these
||||| is true, I invite you to not participate in further discussion in
||||| this thread.
|||||
||||| The following is for people who understand my question -
|||||
||||| Right now I have Opera, Firefox, Thunderbird and Outlook all open,
||||| and only Outlook demands that it have an icon in the system tray.
||||| Outlook 97 didn't require an icon in the system tray, and yet
||||| Outlook 2003 does.
|||||
||||| Is there a way to get rid of this icon while leaving "Hide
||||| Inactive Icons" unchecked?
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||
|||||| --
|||||| Russ Valentine
|||||| [MVP-Outlook]
|||||| |||||||
|||||||| Not at all, but you are.
|||||||| You said you didn't want Outlook minimized to the System Tray.
|||||||| I told you how to do stop that behavior.
|||||||
||||||| My reading is that he wants to ditch the icon in the
||||||| Notification Area altogether. As far as I know, there's no way
||||||| to do that so it's "on to another calendar", as he put it.
||||||| --
||||||| Brian Tillman