Printing in Office 2004 vs. Office X

[drgooply]

I am trying to print a document that was created in Office X. When I
open that document in Office 2004 and print it, it looks different on
the page - different margins. When I look at it in Print Preview, it
looks as it should. None of the margins in the document have been
changed. It just looks different printed in 2004. Fortunately, I can
still open the document in Office X and print it out that way, but of
course I would prefer not to have to do that. When I installed Office
2004, I did it by uninstalling the Test Drive program, and doing a
standard (not custom) install. What do I need to do to ensure the
document prints properly in 2004?
Thank you

 

[Beth Rosengard]

It could be because Office 2004 uses some different (Unicode) fonts than
Office X, even though the names are the same (like Times New Roman). If
that's the case, you *may* be able to solve the problem by using FontBook to
disable the Unicode version of the font. That would force Office 2004 to
use the same version as Office X.

Open the FontBook application. On the left, select All Fonts and navigate
to the font you've used in the document. If there's a dot to the right of
the font name, then you have duplicate versions.

Click on the expand arrow to the left of the font name. Hover over each
duplicate to see a balloon which will give you the font's version number.
Disable the dupe with the highest version number by selecting it and
clicking Disable.

Now try printing again and see if it makes a difference.

By the way, Unicode fonts have many more characters available than
non-Unicode fonts, so you'll probably want to re-enable the Unicode version
of the font when you're done printing the doc.

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[drgooply]

What do you mean, "Open the FontBook application?"

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Font Book is an Apple application which you should find in your user
Applications folder. It comes with the system (OS X).

Beth

 

[drgooply]

Thank you. Live and learn. THere is indeed a dot next to the font I
am using (Times New Roman.) And when I expand it, there is a dot next
to Bold, Bold Italic, Italic and Regular. There are duplicates of each
of these. I am not able, however to "hover over" each one to see the
version number. Should I just disable the ones with the dot? How can
I find the version number?
Thanks for your help
Dr.G.

 

[drgooply]

Please disregard this. Soon as it posted, I found the version number.
Will try your suggestion. Thanks.
d.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Please disregard this. Soon as it posted, I found the version number.
Will try your suggestion. Thanks.

In addition, you can type cmd-R with a font selected in Font Book to
cause the finder to show you where the font is in the file system.
Typing cmd-I with the font selected in Font Book produces a full report
of the font's provenance which is most useful in determining which of
the duplicates is the most useful. In particular, you cannot rely on
the file dates in Finder. You will get better results looking at the
long description you find there. That said, Font Book does a pretty
good job of putting the dot against the less desirable font.

 

[drgooply]

Darn. I did everything. I disabled the more recent duplicate fonts,
and I also uninstalled and reinstalled everything HP, after hearing
from HP that all my software needed to be updated for an Intel Mac.
Still unable to print my document, created in Office X, in Office 2004.
Thank heavens I did not trash Office X. ("Unable to print" only means
that the font and margins are completely different and not appropriate
for this document, which is 417 pp long and represents 5 years of
work, and needs to be presented correctly.)
Any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Dr.G.

 

[drgooply]

(Forgive me if this posts twice. I am not skilled at posting to a
group.)
I have now done everything suggested. I disabled the duplicate fonts
with the higher version number, and I also uninstalled and reinstalled
my printer software, after hearing from HP that the software needed to
be upgraded for the Intel Macs.
And still, the document created in Office X does not print correctly in
Office 2004. The font and the margins are all wrong. This is a 417 p.
document that represents 5 years of work. It needs to be presented
properly. Thank heavens I did not trash Office X.
I am open to any other suggestions.
Thank you
Dr.G.

 

[CyberTaz]

OK, now that you've gotten 'round to what I originally suggested , let's
proceed...

Even if you've done any of this previously;

1- Go to the Apple web site & download the 10.4.8 Combo updater for Intel
which you will find here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1048updateintel.html

2- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after updating
(if you're not familiar with it, your Applications folder contains a
Utilities folder, within which you'll find the utility program called Disk
Utility. Select your HD in the left list & click Repair Disk Permissions -
should take ~ 1-2 mins.)

3- Go to the Mactopia site & download the 11.3 Combo updater:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

4- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after installing

5- Restart your Mac

6- Crank up Word 2003 to see if we've made any progress - let us know either
way.

 

[drgooply]

Nope. Did all that you suggested. Still, when I open, in Word 2004,
the document that was created in Word X, and print it, the font and the
margins are different. I could adjust the font and the margins, I
suppose, but then the page count is completely off.
I am still open to suggestions.
THank you.
Dr.G.

 

[CyberTaz]

Aw, c'mon Doc you must be keeping some secrets

Seriously, this doesn't add up at all. Open the file in '03, then go to
Word>Preferences>Compatibility & click the Font Substitution button. I'm not
fully convinced that it *is* a font problem, but at this point we sure can't
rule anything out.

Is there anything re the structure of the doc that might be influencing its
behavior - sections with different margin settings, portrait & landscape
sections, etc.?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Can you describe *how* the font and margins are different?

Does your page count change from Office X to Office 2004?

The document looks the way you want it to in Print Preview for Office 2004,
but it prints differently from what Print Preview shows? Is that really
what you said?

If so, check your printer settings and make sure "draft font" isn't checked,
or anything. By any chance, is the doc all squeezed up into the top left
corner, with big right and bottom margins?

Other people have reported page breaks being in different places from Office
X to Office 2004, but that was due to lines breaking at a different place,
possibly more spacing between words, or something. The fonts still looked
basically the same--the margin difference was maybe .25 inch--I don't think
anyone would have noticed if not for the difference in page count, in that
case.

You are using Times New Roman you said. What is this doc, by the way?
Screenplay, dissertation? What are the problems in the presentation you see
in Office 2004?

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

How much of a change are we talking about here?

Word X and Word 2004 both use the Mac operating system to render fonts and
draw the screen, but they use different mechanisms.

Word X uses QuickDraw, which does not support Unicode. Word 2004 uses ATSUI
(Apple Type Services for Unicode Interface). These two are similar but
there is a slight difference in rendering: one to three per cent, depending
on the way the characters in fonts are hinted and rendered.

If your document is correctly formatted (i.e. Your styles are properly
defined to produce a stable document) you won't see the difference. If it
isn't, you will indeed get text moving from page to page and margin
turnovers at a different point on the line.

If you want, we could tell you how to set up your styles so you get almost
exactly the same results regardless of which version of Word you use, Mac or
PC, from Word 97 all the way to Word 2007.

Post back if you need this.

Nope. Did all that you suggested. Still, when I open, in Word 2004,
the document that was created in Word X, and print it, the font and the
margins are different. I could adjust the font and the margins, I
suppose, but then the page count is completely off.
I am still open to suggestions.
THank you.
Dr.G.

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Technical Writer.
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[drgooply]

First of all, thank you for all this input. I know you wish I weren't
having this problem; believe me, I wish I weren't having it too.
I have done everything everyone has suggested.
"Open the file in '03" does me no good; the problem is between Office X
and Office 2004.
In any case, the Preferences and Font Substitution button are set to
"Microsoft Word 2000-2004 and X."
The document is a novel. It has no pages that have any different
settings than any other. No pictures, no landscape or portrait
sections; no inserts. 417 pages of text. The font is Times New Roman
12.
The document was created in Office X. The margins are Top 1", Bottom
0.8" Right 1.25"; Left 1.25".
When I open this document in Office 2004, the page count is identical,
and the margins are identical. If I look at it through Print Preview
from the File menu, it looks fine. But when I click "File/Print" and
see a Quick Preview, it looks the way it does when it actually prints,
which is, indeed, all squeezed up into the top left corner, with big
right and bottom margins. The printed copy has margins of
approximately Top 1", Bottom 3.25", Left 1" and Right 2.75". The page
count is identical, and the last word on the page is identical. (Page
breaks, in other words.)
When you say, "check your printer settings and make sure "draft font"
isn't checked," what do you mean? Where are those Printer Settings?
I'm using an HP 6110 All-in-one Printer (with updated software and
drivers) and do not see any place in the application itself for Printer
Settings, nor on the Printer. Do you mean in my printer software, or
in Word? I can't find it.
Thanks again for everyone's input. As I said, I can print out in
Office X, (thank heavens) but I would like to solve this problem and
make use of Office 2004, since I've already bought it.
Thank you
Dr. G.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Okay, we gotcha.

Key point:

it looks the way it does when it actually prints,
which is, indeed, all squeezed up into the top left corner, with big
right and bottom margins.

You are suffering from the "Word thinks it needs to allow room to print
track changes in balloons in the margins" bug. I think an update fixed
this, as it was found fairly early on--however, before messing with
updating, I'm pretty sure that making sure "hidden text" is UNchecked in
both Word | Preferences | View and Word | Preferences | Print should be a
workaround to make it print correctly.

Also make sure there really are no track changes in the document, and that
Print What is set to "document", not "document showing markup" (in the File
| Print dialog, change "copies & pages" to Microsoft Word" to find the Print
What setting).

I'm not sure about the "draft font", that was a vague memory, but it's
irrelevant now.

To update Office, run Help | Check for Updates in any program.

Daiya

 

[CyberTaz]

Sorry for the typo - '04 is what I meant

First of all, thank you for all this input. I know you wish I weren't
having this problem; believe me, I wish I weren't having it too.
I have done everything everyone has suggested.
"Open the file in '03" does me no good; the problem is between Office X
and Office 2004.
In any case, the Preferences and Font Substitution button are set to
"Microsoft Word 2000-2004 and X."

But what happens if you click the Font Substitution button?

The document is a novel. It has no pages that have any different
settings than any other. No pictures, no landscape or portrait
sections; no inserts. 417 pages of text. The font is Times New Roman
12.
The document was created in Office X. The margins are Top 1", Bottom
0.8" Right 1.25"; Left 1.25".
When I open this document in Office 2004, the page count is identical,
and the margins are identical. If I look at it through Print Preview
from the File menu, it looks fine. But when I click "File/Print" and
see a Quick Preview, it looks the way it does when it actually prints,
which is, indeed, all squeezed up into the top left corner, with big
right and bottom margins. The printed copy has margins of
approximately Top 1", Bottom 3.25", Left 1" and Right 2.75". The page
count is identical, and the last word on the page is identical. (Page
breaks, in other words.)

I think Daiya is on track about the Track Changes issue... This wasn't
apparent from your earlier posts, but the measurements help a great deal.

When you say, "check your printer settings and make sure "draft font"
isn't checked," what do you mean? Where are those Printer Settings?
I'm using an HP 6110 All-in-one Printer (with updated software and
drivers) and do not see any place in the application itself for Printer
Settings, nor on the Printer. Do you mean in my printer software, or
in Word? I can't find it.

In the Print dialog make sure that your printer is indicated by name in the
top (Printer list & that the Preset: displays as Standard. In the 3rd list
check the settings for Paper Handling & Print Settings... See that eerything
is set to the correct paper size & that there is no Scaling turned ou. There
may not be a "Draft" setting but there should be a setting of some sort for
print quality. My reference, though, was to Word Menu>Preferences>View -
make sure there is no check in the box for Draft Font there (although it
*shouldn't* affect printing).

Thanks again for everyone's input. As I said, I can print out in
Office X, (thank heavens) but I would like to solve this problem and
make use of Office 2004, since I've already bought it.
Thank you
Dr. G.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[drgooply]

THANK YOU!!!
The problem was that the default setting in the "Print What" menu was
"Print Document with Mark-up."
The "hidden text" box was already unchecked in all the preference
menus, (View and Print); all the updates already installed. There was
a font substution necessary (New York into Times New Roman ... I
think, since this novel took five years to write, earlier sections
might have been written in Word for Windows, which had font named New
York). The thing that finally made the difference was finding that
indeed, the document being printed was "Document with Mark-up" even
though there were no mark-ups within the text.
So, thank you all, it took a village to solve this problem, but the
problem (I hope) has been solved.
THank you,
Dr.G.

 

[CyberTaz]

Congrats! & good luck with the book.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

THANK YOU!!!
The problem was that the default setting in the "Print What" menu was
"Print Document with Mark-up."
The "hidden text" box was already unchecked in all the preference
menus, (View and Print); all the updates already installed. There was
a font substution necessary (New York into Times New Roman ... I
think, since this novel took five years to write, earlier sections
might have been written in Word for Windows, which had font named New
York). The thing that finally made the difference was finding that
indeed, the document being printed was "Document with Mark-up" even
though there were no mark-ups within the text.
So, thank you all, it took a village to solve this problem, but the
problem (I hope) has been solved.
THank you,
Dr.G.

Sorry for the typo - '04 is what I meant

First of all, thank you for all this input. I know you wish I weren't
having this problem; believe me, I wish I weren't having it too.
I have done everything everyone has suggested.
"Open the file in '03" does me no good; the problem is between Office X
and Office 2004.
In any case, the Preferences and Font Substitution button are set to
"Microsoft Word 2000-2004 and X."

But what happens if you click the Font Substitution button?

The document is a novel. It has no pages that have any different
settings than any other. No pictures, no landscape or portrait
sections; no inserts. 417 pages of text. The font is Times New Roman
12.
The document was created in Office X. The margins are Top 1", Bottom
0.8" Right 1.25"; Left 1.25".
When I open this document in Office 2004, the page count is identical,
and the margins are identical. If I look at it through Print Preview
from the File menu, it looks fine. But when I click "File/Print" and
see a Quick Preview, it looks the way it does when it actually prints,
which is, indeed, all squeezed up into the top left corner, with big
right and bottom margins. The printed copy has margins of
approximately Top 1", Bottom 3.25", Left 1" and Right 2.75". The page
count is identical, and the last word on the page is identical. (Page
breaks, in other words.)

I think Daiya is on track about the Track Changes issue... This wasn't
apparent from your earlier posts, but the measurements help a great deal.

When you say, "check your printer settings and make sure "draft font"
isn't checked," what do you mean? Where are those Printer Settings?
I'm using an HP 6110 All-in-one Printer (with updated software and
drivers) and do not see any place in the application itself for Printer
Settings, nor on the Printer. Do you mean in my printer software, or
in Word? I can't find it.

In the Print dialog make sure that your printer is indicated by name in the
top (Printer list & that the Preset: displays as Standard. In the 3rd list
check the settings for Paper Handling & Print Settings... See that eerything
is set to the correct paper size & that there is no Scaling turned ou. There
may not be a "Draft" setting but there should be a setting of some sort for
print quality. My reference, though, was to Word Menu>Preferences>View -
make sure there is no check in the box for Draft Font there (although it
*shouldn't* affect printing).

Thanks again for everyone's input. As I said, I can print out in
Office X, (thank heavens) but I would like to solve this problem and
make use of Office 2004, since I've already bought it.
Thank you
Dr. G.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] wrote:
How much of a change are we talking about here?

Word X and Word 2004 both use the Mac operating system to render fonts and
draw the screen, but they use different mechanisms.

Word X uses QuickDraw, which does not support Unicode. Word 2004 uses
ATSUI
(Apple Type Services for Unicode Interface). These two are similar but
there is a slight difference in rendering: one to three per cent, depending
on the way the characters in fonts are hinted and rendered.

If your document is correctly formatted (i.e. Your styles are properly
defined to produce a stable document) you won't see the difference. If it
isn't, you will indeed get text moving from page to page and margin
turnovers at a different point on the line.

If you want, we could tell you how to set up your styles so you get almost
exactly the same results regardless of which version of Word you use, Mac
or
PC, from Word 97 all the way to Word 2007.

Post back if you need this.

On 23/11/06 5:00 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

Nope. Did all that you suggested. Still, when I open, in Word 2004,
the document that was created in Word X, and print it, the font and the
margins are different. I could adjust the font and the margins, I
suppose, but then the page count is completely off.
I am still open to suggestions.
THank you.
Dr.G.
CyberTaz wrote:
OK, now that you've gotten 'round to what I originally suggested ,
let's
proceed...

Even if you've done any of this previously;

1- Go to the Apple web site & download the 10.4.8 Combo updater for Intel
which you will find here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1048updateintel.html

2- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after updating
(if you're not familiar with it, your Applications folder contains a
Utilities folder, within which you'll find the utility program called
Disk
Utility. Select your HD in the left list & click Repair Disk Permissions
-
should take ~ 1-2 mins.)

3- Go to the Mactopia site & download the 11.3 Combo updater:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

4- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after installing

5- Restart your Mac

6- Crank up Word 2003 to see if we've made any progress - let us know
either
way.
--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


(Forgive me if this posts twice. I am not skilled at posting to a
group.)
I have now done everything suggested. I disabled the duplicate fonts
with the higher version number, and I also uninstalled and reinstalled
my printer software, after hearing from HP that the software needed to
be upgraded for the Intel Macs.
And still, the document created in Office X does not print correctly in
Office 2004. The font and the margins are all wrong. This is a 417 p.
document that represents 5 years of work. It needs to be presented
properly. Thank heavens I did not trash Office X.
I am open to any other suggestions.
Thank you
Dr.G.

drgooply wrote:
Please disregard this. Soon as it posted, I found the version number.
Will try your suggestion. Thanks.
d.
drgooply wrote:
Thank you. Live and learn. THere is indeed a dot next to the font I
am using (Times New Roman.) And when I expand it, there is a dot next
to Bold, Bold Italic, Italic and Regular. There are duplicates of
each
of these. I am not able, however to "hover over" each one to see the
version number. Should I just disable the ones with the dot? How can
I find the version number?
Thanks for your help
Dr.G.
Beth Rosengard wrote:
Font Book is an Apple application which you should find in your user
Applications folder. It comes with the system (OS X).

Beth


On 11/20/06 10:42 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

What do you mean, "Open the FontBook application?"

Beth Rosengard wrote:
It could be because Office 2004 uses some different (Unicode)
fonts than
Office X, even though the names are the same (like Times New
Roman). If
that's the case, you *may* be able to solve the problem by using
FontBook to
disable the Unicode version of the font. That would force Office
2004 to
use the same version as Office X.

Open the FontBook application. On the left, select All Fonts and
navigate
to the font you've used in the document. If there's a dot to the
right of
the font name, then you have duplicate versions.

Click on the expand arrow to the left of the font name. Hover
over each
duplicate to see a balloon which will give you the font's version
number.
Disable the dupe with the highest version number by selecting it
and
clicking Disable.

Now try printing again and see if it makes a difference.

By the way, Unicode fonts have many more characters available than
non-Unicode fonts, so you'll probably want to re-enable the
Unicode version
of the font when you're done printing the doc.

--
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Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
My Site: <http://www.bethrosengard.com>




On 11/20/06 2:28 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

I am trying to print a document that was created in Office X.
When I
open that document in Office 2004 and print it, it looks
different on
the page - different margins. When I look at it in Print
Preview, it
looks as it should. None of the margins in the document have
been
changed. It just looks different printed in 2004. Fortunately,
I can
still open the document in Office X and print it out that way,
but of
course I would prefer not to have to do that. When I installed
Office
2004, I did it by uninstalling the Test Drive program, and doing
a
standard (not custom) install. What do I need to do to ensure
the
document prints properly in 2004?
Thank you





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Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[drgooply]

Congrats! & good luck with the book.

Yes. Too bad I can't get help with that on this forum!

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

THANK YOU!!!
The problem was that the default setting in the "Print What" menu was
"Print Document with Mark-up."
The "hidden text" box was already unchecked in all the preference
menus, (View and Print); all the updates already installed. There was
a font substution necessary (New York into Times New Roman ... I
think, since this novel took five years to write, earlier sections
might have been written in Word for Windows, which had font named New
York). The thing that finally made the difference was finding that
indeed, the document being printed was "Document with Mark-up" even
though there were no mark-ups within the text.
So, thank you all, it took a village to solve this problem, but the
problem (I hope) has been solved.
THank you,
Dr.G.

Sorry for the typo - '04 is what I meant


On 11/24/06 1:33 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

First of all, thank you for all this input. I know you wish I weren't
having this problem; believe me, I wish I weren't having it too.
I have done everything everyone has suggested.
"Open the file in '03" does me no good; the problem is between Office X
and Office 2004.
In any case, the Preferences and Font Substitution button are set to
"Microsoft Word 2000-2004 and X."

But what happens if you click the Font Substitution button?

The document is a novel. It has no pages that have any different
settings than any other. No pictures, no landscape or portrait
sections; no inserts. 417 pages of text. The font is Times New Roman
12.
The document was created in Office X. The margins are Top 1", Bottom
0.8" Right 1.25"; Left 1.25".
When I open this document in Office 2004, the page count is identical,
and the margins are identical. If I look at it through Print Preview
from the File menu, it looks fine. But when I click "File/Print" and
see a Quick Preview, it looks the way it does when it actually prints,
which is, indeed, all squeezed up into the top left corner, with big
right and bottom margins. The printed copy has margins of
approximately Top 1", Bottom 3.25", Left 1" and Right 2.75". The page
count is identical, and the last word on the page is identical. (Page
breaks, in other words.)

I think Daiya is on track about the Track Changes issue... This wasn't
apparent from your earlier posts, but the measurements help a great deal.

When you say, "check your printer settings and make sure "draft font"
isn't checked," what do you mean? Where are those Printer Settings?
I'm using an HP 6110 All-in-one Printer (with updated software and
drivers) and do not see any place in the application itself for Printer
Settings, nor on the Printer. Do you mean in my printer software, or
in Word? I can't find it.

In the Print dialog make sure that your printer is indicated by name in the
top (Printer list & that the Preset: displays as Standard. In the 3rd list
check the settings for Paper Handling & Print Settings... See that eerything
is set to the correct paper size & that there is no Scaling turned ou. There
may not be a "Draft" setting but there should be a setting of some sort for
print quality. My reference, though, was to Word Menu>Preferences>View -
make sure there is no check in the box for Draft Font there (although it
*shouldn't* affect printing).

Thanks again for everyone's input. As I said, I can print out in
Office X, (thank heavens) but I would like to solve this problem and
make use of Office 2004, since I've already bought it.
Thank you
Dr. G.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh] wrote:
How much of a change are we talking about here?

Word X and Word 2004 both use the Mac operating system to render fonts and
draw the screen, but they use different mechanisms.

Word X uses QuickDraw, which does not support Unicode. Word 2004 uses
ATSUI
(Apple Type Services for Unicode Interface). These two are similar but
there is a slight difference in rendering: one to three per cent, depending
on the way the characters in fonts are hinted and rendered.

If your document is correctly formatted (i.e. Your styles are properly
defined to produce a stable document) you won't see the difference. If it
isn't, you will indeed get text moving from page to page and margin
turnovers at a different point on the line.

If you want, we could tell you how to set up your styles so you get almost
exactly the same results regardless of which version of Word you use, Mac
or
PC, from Word 97 all the way to Word 2007.

Post back if you need this.

On 23/11/06 5:00 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

Nope. Did all that you suggested. Still, when I open, in Word 2004,
the document that was created in Word X, and print it, the font and the
margins are different. I could adjust the font and the margins, I
suppose, but then the page count is completely off.
I am still open to suggestions.
THank you.
Dr.G.
CyberTaz wrote:
OK, now that you've gotten 'round to what I originally suggested ,
let's
proceed...

Even if you've done any of this previously;

1- Go to the Apple web site & download the 10.4.8 Combo updater for Intel
which you will find here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1048updateintel.html

2- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after updating
(if you're not familiar with it, your Applications folder contains a
Utilities folder, within which you'll find the utility program called
Disk
Utility. Select your HD in the left list & click Repair Disk Permissions
-
should take ~ 1-2 mins.)

3- Go to the Mactopia site & download the 11.3 Combo updater:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

4- Run Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions after installing

5- Restart your Mac

6- Crank up Word 2003 to see if we've made any progress - let us know
either
way.
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Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


(Forgive me if this posts twice. I am not skilled at posting to a
group.)
I have now done everything suggested. I disabled the duplicate fonts
with the higher version number, and I also uninstalled and reinstalled
my printer software, after hearing from HP that the software needed to
be upgraded for the Intel Macs.
And still, the document created in Office X does not print correctly in
Office 2004. The font and the margins are all wrong. This is a 417 p.
document that represents 5 years of work. It needs to be presented
properly. Thank heavens I did not trash Office X.
I am open to any other suggestions.
Thank you
Dr.G.

drgooply wrote:
Please disregard this. Soon as it posted, I found the version number.
Will try your suggestion. Thanks.
d.
drgooply wrote:
Thank you. Live and learn. THere is indeed a dot next to the font I
am using (Times New Roman.) And when I expand it, there is a dot next
to Bold, Bold Italic, Italic and Regular. There are duplicates of
each
of these. I am not able, however to "hover over" each one to see the
version number. Should I just disable the ones with the dot? How can
I find the version number?
Thanks for your help
Dr.G.
Beth Rosengard wrote:
Font Book is an Apple application which you should find in your user
Applications folder. It comes with the system (OS X).

Beth


On 11/20/06 10:42 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

What do you mean, "Open the FontBook application?"

Beth Rosengard wrote:
It could be because Office 2004 uses some different (Unicode)
fonts than
Office X, even though the names are the same (like Times New
Roman). If
that's the case, you *may* be able to solve the problem by using
FontBook to
disable the Unicode version of the font. That would force Office
2004 to
use the same version as Office X.

Open the FontBook application. On the left, select All Fonts and
navigate
to the font you've used in the document. If there's a dot to the
right of
the font name, then you have duplicate versions.

Click on the expand arrow to the left of the font name. Hover
over each
duplicate to see a balloon which will give you the font's version
number.
Disable the dupe with the highest version number by selecting it
and
clicking Disable.

Now try printing again and see if it makes a difference.

By the way, Unicode fonts have many more characters available than
non-Unicode fonts, so you'll probably want to re-enable the
Unicode version
of the font when you're done printing the doc.

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On 11/20/06 2:28 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "drgooply"

I am trying to print a document that was created in Office X.
When I
open that document in Office 2004 and print it, it looks
different on
the page - different margins. When I look at it in Print
Preview, it
looks as it should. None of the margins in the document have
been
changed. It just looks different printed in 2004. Fortunately,
I can
still open the document in Office X and print it out that way,
but of
course I would prefer not to have to do that. When I installed
Office
2004, I did it by uninstalling the Test Drive program, and doing
a
standard (not custom) install. What do I need to do to ensure
the
document prints properly in 2004?
Thank you





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