Pub 2003 Web Site Size again.

X

xeroid

Ok, I was getting a little excited with the service pak 2 and it's ability
to take pictures in your web site creation and quickly bring them down to 96
dpi or web friendly. But it's no real help. As I recreated a site I am
working on which consists of 46 pages I noticed that after setting up the 46
blank pages with a background selection the site was already around 70 megs
in size .. and I haven't entered any content !

Is there anything else that can be done ... cause it isn't so much the
pictures that is making Pub 2003 web sites so large !

Thanks
 
A

analog

Indeed, it is what it is, and it is crap!

Fix it M$!

Actually Publisher 2000 is quite usable for websites, but it is feature limited,
still buggy, and becoming obsolete.
 
X

xeroid

YES ... what value is it if when someone goes to your site and they can't
see it all. Pictures won't load up ... takes forever etc.
Check it out for yourself at: www.lhaywardcollection.com

Point out all the bugs you get
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

In xeroid <[email protected]> posted:
|| YES ... what value is it if when someone goes to your site and they
|| can't see it all. Pictures won't load up ... takes forever etc.
|| Check it out for yourself at: www.lhaywardcollection.com
||
|| Point out all the bugs you get

Site loaded and looks good to me. I am using broadband however. The pricing
page took a couple seconds to load do to all the pictures, but it loaded
like any normal site for me. I have seen some bad ones though out there on
the web!
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
D

DavidF

In addition to what David said you might want to check out what is in your
Design Gallery. Though the following applies to Publisher 2000, I believe
that I have read here or in the main newsgroup that 2003 can have the same
problem with graphics and other design gallery objects:

SYMPTOMS
When you delete pages in a catalog, Web page, or newsletter publication
created by Microsoft Publisher, the size of your publication may not
decrease as expected. For example, if you delete a page containing a graphic
that is 3 megabytes (MB) in size, the publication file size will not
decrease by 3 MB.
CAUSE
Pictures from deleted publications are stored for further use in the
Microsoft Publisher Design Gallery. This behavior only occurs with catalog,
Web page, or newsletter publications.
RESOLUTION
1.. If the Wizard is not displayed, click Show Wizard in the lower-left
corner of the Microsoft Publisher window.
2.. Click Extra Content.
3.. Click Delete All to delete all content not used in the current
publication. Alternatively, click Delete to remove individual objects.
 
A

analog

The site is crisp and clean in terms of apprearance, but the graphics load
painfully slowly at my present 24K connection speed (it never gets over 26.4K).
The site would load much faster if you built it in Publisher 2000, and optimized
the graphics for online display with a good graphics program (we use Adobe
Photoshop Elements - Picture It sucks badly).

A much better idea would be to leave Publisher and use something decent before
the site gets much bigger and the time required to change programs becomes too
daunting.

Good luck.
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

I recommend FrontPage or Dreamweaver for creating a website as opposed to
ANY version of Publisher.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
A

analog

As should any rational individual. So why does M$ continue to tout publisher as
being suitable for small business use for web site creation? And why are we
here talking about it? M$ should either fix it or give up on this silly
pretense. In any event, they need to devise a conversion utility to get us
fools with websites stuck in Publisher into Front Page without it taking
countless hours to patch the resultant code. It is not asking too much, dernit.
 
J

JoAnn Paules

You know, after I sent that I had a feeling *someone* would twist that
question....................... ;-)
 
J

John Ferrell

I think it is a wonderful feature. Try to think of it as a "Swiss Army
Knife" kind of thing. It is not a replacement for complete toolbox,
but it is readily available. It is a quick way to put a newsletter or
brochure up on the web.
I think the general expectations of use of this feature are simply too
high on this news group.

If you bought Publisher to do web sites, you made a mistake. If you
bought Publisher to do publishing, you cannot go wrong. By the way, it
also can publish to the web.

I like FrontPage too. Dreamweaver is priced out of my reach.
Any body want to publish a paper newsletter with either one of them?
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi (e-mail address removed) ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| As should any rational individual. So why does M$ continue to tout
|| publisher as being suitable for small business use for web site
|| creation? And why are we here talking about it? M$ should either
|| fix it or give up on this silly pretense. In any event, they need
|| to devise a conversion utility to get us fools with websites stuck
|| in Publisher into Front Page without it taking countless hours to
|| patch the resultant code. It is not asking too much, dernit.

I personally believe that Publisher is excellent for the creation of
webpages, and much easier than FrontPage and Dreamweaver for a small
business looking for a few pages of presence on the web. However, due to
it's footprint with 2003, I too believe it needs to be addressed. David
Bartosik has voiced his opinion very strongly to the Publisher team when we
were in Redmond meeting with them in April. We will still continue to push
for improved web output.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi (e-mail address removed) ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| Make up your mind. This speaking out of both sides of your mouth is
|| disingenuous.

Huh? Because I recommend FrontPage or Dreamweaver over Publisher, but say
that Publisher is easier (but it's downfall is it's large footprint).

How about you THINK before you post. And READ before you post. Then you
wouldn't come across as being so unprepared in snappish.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
A

analog

So .... can I just copy each page over into Publisher 2000 ... how much will
this reduce the size of my website?

www.lhaywardcollection.com
Click to expand...

Maybe; the experts in here might know about backwards compatibility. If you are
willing to just take the time to build it in Publisher 2000, you can certainly
do that.

It will reduce the size dramatically, but there is a big problem. You will be
stranding yourself in a soon to be obsolete version. I am in that boat with a
300 page website, and that is a boat you do not want to be in.

Think about bailing out of Publisher now. Front Page is not supposed to be too
difficult to learn.
 

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