Publisher 2000 web design

[David Balaam]

I have used Pub 2000 for a long time and have 6 websites with it.
Recently I have been working on Pub 2000 and in 'Preview a Page' it now
cannot save any graphics. I get a message 'Cannot save graphics. Files is
either too large or not enough memory'. Both statements of wich are a load
of rubbish.

The page file saves in my local folder, but WITHOUT ANY GRAPHICS FILES (just
empty file folder).

Please advise why I have suddenly lost the ability to save graphics

 

[Mary Sauer]

You receive a "Not enough memory to load graphics or embedded objects" error
message when you open a Publisher publication
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262855/en-us

You receive a "Publisher cannot complete the operation" error message when you
import pictures in Publisher 2002 and in Publisher 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/218675/en-us

..gifs?
PUB2000: Cannot Create Online Document Error Publishing Web
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198238/en-us

 

[David Balaam]

Hi Mary
The link http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198238/en-us
had the right problem to solve, but it did not work. Most of my graphics
are JPEGs, would that make a difference?

Also, should Pub 2000 work OK in IE7?

Regards
David

 

[DavidF]

Are you having problems with just a web page preview, or as you stated in
your original post that you are having problems saving the .pub file...or
perhaps Save As a Web page?

Does this issue occur with every .pub file, or with just one?

Have you tried Tools > Design Checker? Perhaps you have an image or some
other design element overlapping into the scratch area?

DavidF

 

[David Balaam]

Hi David
The design is fine and it happens with any page I want to re-save. The page
html is saved plus an empty image file. Same when saving as a Web Page.

I can open ALL OLD pages in browser, but not newly created or changed pages.

All reference to img are missing in the source text.
I will try and reinstall Pub 2000 to see if that makes a difference.

Kind regards
David

 

[DavidF]

I am sorry, but I am still confused by your terminology. What do you mean by
"re-save"? It might help if I get on the same page as you are.

Are you just getting this error when you do 1) a web page preview or 2) when
you save the changes in the Pub file using Save or Save as, or 3) when you
Save as a Web page? There is a big difference between getting errors during
the web page preview which has nothing to do with saving anything?

When you open an existing Pub file, make a change to a page, do you get the
error when you save the change to the Pub file by simply saving or doing a
save as another Pub file?

Do you get the error when you Save as a Web page from the Pub file? When you
say " The page html is saved plus an empty image file." that has nothing to
do with a web page preview. Please explain what you mean by an empty image
file.

Have you tried temporarily deconstructing your problem page by dragging all
the images into the scratch area and then doing a web page preview? This
might help identify a problem with a specific image. Just make sure to back
up your original file before you try this.

Have you tried to open your .html files in FireFox to see if the problem is
IE7 specific? FF is a quick easy download, and it might be worth it to see
if the problems you are having are Publisher or IE related.

You might want to do a detect and repair under Help before resorting to
uninstalling and reinstalling Pub.

Do you automatic update your computer with patches from MSFT? Did this
problem start recently after downloading and installing a particular patch?

Sorry if I am dense here. I know you know what you are trying to say, but
for some reason the words you have chosen to use confuse me.

DavdF

 

[David Balaam]

Hi David
Sorry for the wording -

I get this error when I do a page preview.
I do not save the completed site as a webpage as it is over 100 pages.

I always
a) preview a page I have finshed in browser
b) then saved that page as a complete webpage to local file
c) I then upload page and image folder to website.

The problem starts in previewing anythng I have changed to a page. Originol
pages are still OK and can be seen in browesr.

I have not downloaded Firefox but will try it to see if same happens

Regards
David

 

[David Balaam]

Just tested in Firefox - same results. Publisher is not saving any graphics

David

 

[David Balaam]

Can I email you an image of the preview results I get - it may help

Regards
David
(e-mail address removed)

 

[DavidF]

Mary,

You have answered this a zillion times, but if you would again... What is,
and where is the graphics filter for .jpgs and .gifs. You have suggested in
the past to rename these as "old", and then repairing or reinstalling the
filters. Assuming Pub 2000, could you give the instructions on how to do
this please? Thanks.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

No problem on the wording...problem is in my ability to understand the
wording ;-)

One more point of clarification please...maybe two <grin again>.

Are you sure you are using Pub 2000? Open Help and About Publisher to
confirm. I ask this because your work flow is different than I have ever
experienced, or what I follow myself...and I still use Pub 2000 for my
production work. When you Save As a Web page directly from the open Pub
file, which is the proper way of producing your web pages or your html files
in Pub 2000, then you do not get an image folder. Publisher 2000
automatically produces a "Publish" folder when you "Save As a Web Page", and
then unless you direct the output to another folder, it will produce a .html
file for each page in your site plus all the images. All these .html files
and image files are loose...no subfolder. Starting with Pub 2002 Publisher
gave you the option of using a subfolder to organize all the graphics and
images in a subfolder, which is usually called "index_files". Nor do you get
an image folder if you do a web page preview, and then from IE do a Save as
type" Web page complete...", or "Web Archive (.mht file)", or "Web page,
html only...". If I do a web page preview, and then a Save As from IE6, as a
"Web page complete..." and upload that .html file, and view the uploaded
file, I do not get any images...just the X showing that the images are
missing. If I upload the .mht file, the images are visible.

So assuming that you are indeed using Pub 2000, where is this image folder
coming from? How are you inserting your images? Are you importing them from
a image folder on your host? Right click one of the images on one of the
problem pages > change picture > Graphics manager. Are you pictures embedded
or linked to the image file on your local computer?

And perhaps this is all a moot issue, if you are getting your original error
when you do the web page preview directly from the Publisher file. When you
do a web page preview, and the web page preview dialog comes up, do you
choose "Web site" or "Current Page"? If I understand correctly, you only get
an error if you have added a page to your Publisher file, that has images,
and do a web page preview of that "current page"...or does the error happen
when you choose to preview the "web site"?

It is possible that if you have 100 pages and lots of JPGs inserted into
those pages, that you may have indeed exceeded the ability of your computer
to open and preview those pages. Pub 2000 stores JPGs in an uncompressed
state. When you right click your Pub file, and look at the properties, how
big is the file? Another experiment.... Open your original Pub file where
you are getting the error message. Open a second instance of Pub 2000, and
create a blank web page. Copy all the content of one of the new problem
pages and paste to the blank page in the second instance of Publisher. Do a
web page preview...do you get the error?

I may be going off on a tangent here with all of this. It is still possible
that one of your graphic filters are corrupted. This happens a lot and Mary
knows the names of those filters and how to repair them. Let's pull her back
into this and check that option out too...

Sorry I don't have a quick solution for you, but as I said, your workflow
and terminology is throwing me for a loop.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

I would prefer that you use www.YouSendIt.com to upload a copy of that file,
send the link to yourself, and then post the link to download it back to the
group. Yousendit is a freebie, and though it seems like you have to sign up,
you don't have to in order to use the service. Thanks.

DavidF

 

[David Balaam]

Hope this works
http://download.yousendit.com/9CC57ED457E955B4

http://download.yousendit.com/DDC7FC4E3804684D

Should see example page of origional and new.


On your last reply, I know it seems unusual to make and uplaod a website
the way I do, but it was they way I was taught. When you have alot of pages
it is easy to make changes to one page at the time. Therefore I create and
uplaod single pages as am html, together with its corrisponding file.

However, the problem still remains when I try to preview a page on my PC.
There must be a misisng file or filter that shows the images. A reinstall
may be the answer.

Kind regards
David

 

[DavidF]

David,

Your files came through just fine (I use yousendit all the time for large
files rather than bog down an email), but they don't really give me much
insight as to your problem. Perhaps when Mary posts back the method of
replacing the graphic filters, your problem will go away.

In the meantime, you did not answer my questions in the other post, so let
me be more methodical:

1. Is your D drive a data drive partition on your local hard drive, or is it
an external drive? If it is on an external drive, what happens if you copy
your Pub file to your desktop on the C drive, open it, and then try a Web
Page preview? Do you still get an error?

2. Right click your Pub file, properties, and how big is the file?

3. What happens if you make sure your Pub file is on your C drive, you open
it, you then do a Save As a web page and direct the output to a folder where
you can find it. Assuming that you can do that successfully, then go to the
"Promotional-BagsN.html" file and double click it. Does it preview in IE7
then? Try opening the same file in FF...what happens?

4. You mentioned again that you upload "single pages as am html, together
with its corresponding file." and previously talked about a folder
containing the images. Publisher 2000 does not produce a folder for just the
images, nor is there any folder if I do a web page preview and then do a
save as a complete web page from IE. What folder are you talking about?

5. There are many ways of skinning a cat...or producing web pages, but when
I look at your home page: http://justincentives.com/ and look at the source
code, it is not like any code I have ever seen produced for Publisher 2000.
Are each and every page on your site produced by doing a web page preview
and then saving as a web page from IE? Perhaps the way you were taught is
something entirely different than I have seen before. How is your directory
organized? After we get an answer to the issue at hand, perhaps I can
suggest a better way of organizing your site, and using multiple Pub files
to build it.

DavidF

 

[Mary Sauer]

The filters are in a folder similar to this
C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\Grphflt

Find JPEGIMP32.FLT and rename it to JPEGIMP32.OLD. Does it have a 12-07-1998
timestamp?
Insert Disk 1 of Office 2000, Right-click, click explore, PFILES, COMMON,
MSShared, Grphfit folder, drag a new instance of the graphics filter to the
folder. My 2000 filter has the above timestamp. My present filter is much newer
10-26-2006.

Sometimes this will cure the problem, sometimes not.

 

[David Balaam]

Hi David, I have answered you below in " ......."

1. Is your D drive a data drive partition on your local hard drive, or is it
an external drive? "LOCAL HARD DRIVE"


2. Right click your Pub file, properties, and how big is the file? "112190Kb"

3. What happens if you make sure your Pub file is on your C drive, you open
it, you then do a Save As a web page and direct the output to a folder where
you can find it. Assuming that you can do that successfully, then go to the
"Promotional-BagsN.html" file and double click it. Does it preview in IE7.
"NO"
then? Try opening the same file in FF...what happens? "Same result"

4. You mentioned again that you upload "single pages as an html, together
with its corresponding file." and previously talked about a folder
containing the images. Publisher 2000 does not produce a folder for just the
images, "(yes it can from the preview, saving as a complete web page)" nor
is there any folder if I do a web page preview and then do a save as a
complete web page from IE. What folder are you talking about?
"I create a save folder called Justincentives, and add each HTML page, with
each image folder to it. As I said before, this way it seems easier to edit
a single page when necessary."



5. There are many ways of skinning a cat...or producing web pages, but when
I look at your home page: http://justincentives.com/ ; and look at the source
code, it is not like any code I have ever seen produced for Publisher 2000.
Are each and every page on your site produced by doing a web page preview
and then saving as a web page from IE? "YES"

Perhaps the way you were taught is
something entirely different than I have seen before. How is your directory
organized? After we get an answer to the issue at hand, perhaps I can
suggest a better way of organizing your site, and using multiple Pub files
to build it.
"I am doing this in Publisher 2003, but still need to service my older
websites built in Pub 2000"

I am sending you 2 more jpegs showing the saved files in my local drive

Regards
David Balaam

 

[David Balaam]

http://download.yousendit.com/3220F4094C52E9A7

http://download.yousendit.com/6FCAB8AF4462ACFB

 

[David Balaam]

Are you in UK or USA??

It's 11.0pm here so need to get some rest.

Its also holiday in UK tomorrow so I am around some of the day.
Do you want to Skype me. David Balaam Ashtead UK

Goodnight and thanks

 

[DavidF]

I have good news and bad news. The good news is I learned something new
about Pub 2000 today, and think I figured out your problem. I now understand
what you have been talking about when you talked about the folder containing
the images. I didn't realize until today that if you do a web page preview
with a Pub 2000 webpage, that when you do a File > Save As a Web page,
complete...from IE, that you get both a "thispage.html" file and a
"thispage_files" folder that contains the images from that page. I had no
idea that you could do that with Pub 2000...thanks.

Now the bad news...this doesn't work in Pub 2003...or 2007. MSFT changed to
a different html coding engine with Pub 2002, and continued to tweak it in
Pub 2003 and 2007. In fact that is part of the reason that I have continued
to use Pub 2000. I prefer Pub 2000 code among other things. I am assuming
that you just switched to Pub 2003, and that was when you started having
problems, correct? While I don't get the error message that you do, when I
try to save as from IE6, I do get the .html file, but the accompanying
folder has only the background image, and none of the other images are
copied to that folder.

Assuming I am correct about the Pub 2003 pages being the problem, then your
best solution is to go back to using Pub 2000. You can have both installed
on your computer, just make sure to do a custom install, and install the
second version installed in its own folder vs. the default folder. Generally
the best way is to install 2000, and then do a custom install of 2003, and
choose to not overwrite 2000....but as long as each are installed in
separate folders you should be ok. Alternatively, if you really want to use
Pub 2003, then you will have to produce your pages in a different manner,
that I can explain if you want. However, it will require you to produce each
page with a separate Pub file...let me know.

If I have guessed wrong about you having the problems with pages produced
with Pub 2003, then post back, and maybe try Mary's suggestion about how to
fix the graphic filter.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

Thanks Mary. I suspect now that David's problem is not with the filter, but
if I have guessed wrong, he now has the information to try.

DavidF

The filters are in a folder similar to this
C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\Grphflt

Find JPEGIMP32.FLT and rename it to JPEGIMP32.OLD. Does it have a
12-07-1998 timestamp?
Insert Disk 1 of Office 2000, Right-click, click explore, PFILES, COMMON,
MSShared, Grphfit folder, drag a new instance of the graphics filter to
the folder. My 2000 filter has the above timestamp. My present filter is
much newer 10-26-2006.

Sometimes this will cure the problem, sometimes not.