READ BEFORE INSTALLING OFFICE 2007 B2TR

[Patrick Schmid]

Yes, I know.
But you aren't necessarily better off if you stored all your files in
the 97-2003 formats. For example, XLS files created in B1/B1TR might not
open in B2TR either.

Patrick Schmid
---------------
http://pschmid.net

That was actually already mentioned from the dogfood builds. The file format
was/is still under development throughout the BETA as well and except for
OneNote "upgrading" documents from earlier BETAs wouldn't be fully supported
(which includes "dirtying" it). It was recommended against storing important
data in the new file format.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Definitely different. Files created in B1 and B1TR don't open in B2TR
anymore, they actually produce a corrupt file error message. B2TR uses
the XML file formats according to the Ecma draft v1.4, B2 used 1.3. B1TR
and B1 were earlier versions.

Patrick Schmid
---------------
http://pschmid.net

Apparently not, however. Is the file format really different between
B1/B1TR
and B2 or only the version? In Word 97-2003, if you open a Word 6.0/95
doc,
you might be asked if you want to save in the current format, but if you
open, say, a Word 97 file in Word 2003, you don't get any sort of prompt,
since the file format is the same.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

 

[Pat Garard]

WOW!
Well I be ... [:-{

Thanks ... [;-}
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

That's what I thought already ;-)

Search for lxbkprpr.dll and copy it to c:\windows\system32
By default it resides in;
c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser iesf27b

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Roady,

I have a LeXmark 1185 (all-in-one).
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

What type of printer do you have?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Patrick,

Thanks for the Information!

You may remember that I had some issue with OL2007 - most of these
are now resolved.

When I print, I still get warnings about Prop Res DLL not loaded,
but it prints ok.

The Editor seems much improved - as does the rest of Office 2007.

Thanks again!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

The B2TR patch has some nasty surprises for users in store. The most
important
one being that Word 2007 Beta 2 files saved in the new file formats
(extensions docx, docm, etc) might not open at all once B2TR has been
installed.
Excel files in the file formats (extensions xlsx, xlsm, etc) saved in B2
should open in B2TR. PowerPoint files saved in B2 in the new file formats
(extensions pptx, pptm, etc) seem to at least open, but seem to have
issues
with font size, text placement, and other minor issues.
Before installing B2TR therefore, you should save all your files in the
97-2003 file formats. That means, save all your docx files as doc (Word),
all
your xslx files as xls (Excel) and all your pptx files as ppt
(PowerPoint).
There are a host of other issues you might encounter. I am keeping a
running
list that I will update constantly over the next few days at
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/14/43. I highly suggest to read it before
installing B2TR.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Graham Mayor]

Just a suggestion - I would have thought that re-registering the dll from
its current default location would have worked as well, and might make
things simpler if you need to uninstall that printer later?

regsvr32 "c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser
iesf27b"

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

That's what I thought already ;-)

Search for lxbkprpr.dll and copy it to c:\windows\system32
By default it resides in;
c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser iesf27b

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Roady,

I have a LeXmark 1185 (all-in-one).

What type of printer do you have?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Patrick,

Thanks for the Information!

You may remember that I had some issue with OL2007 - most of these
are now resolved.

When I print, I still get warnings about Prop Res DLL not loaded,
but it prints ok.

The Editor seems much improved - as does the rest of Office 2007.

Thanks again!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

The B2TR patch has some nasty surprises for users in store. The most
important
one being that Word 2007 Beta 2 files saved in the new file formats
(extensions docx, docm, etc) might not open at all once B2TR has
been installed.
Excel files in the file formats (extensions xlsx, xlsm, etc) saved
in B2 should open in B2TR. PowerPoint files saved in B2 in the new
file formats (extensions pptx, pptm, etc) seem to at least open,
but seem to have issues
with font size, text placement, and other minor issues.
Before installing B2TR therefore, you should save all your files in
the 97-2003 file formats. That means, save all your docx files as
doc (Word), all
your xslx files as xls (Excel) and all your pptx files as ppt
(PowerPoint).
There are a host of other issues you might encounter. I am keeping a
running
list that I will update constantly over the next few days at
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/14/43. I highly suggest to read it
before installing B2TR.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Roady [MVP]]

It seems to break itself over time :-S

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Just a suggestion - I would have thought that re-registering the dll from
its current default location would have worked as well, and might make
things simpler if you need to uninstall that printer later?

regsvr32 "c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser
iesf27b"

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

That's what I thought already ;-)

Search for lxbkprpr.dll and copy it to c:\windows\system32
By default it resides in;
c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser iesf27b

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Roady,

I have a LeXmark 1185 (all-in-one).

What type of printer do you have?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Patrick,

Thanks for the Information!

You may remember that I had some issue with OL2007 - most of these
are now resolved.

When I print, I still get warnings about Prop Res DLL not loaded,
but it prints ok.

The Editor seems much improved - as does the rest of Office 2007.

Thanks again!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

The B2TR patch has some nasty surprises for users in store. The most
important
one being that Word 2007 Beta 2 files saved in the new file formats
(extensions docx, docm, etc) might not open at all once B2TR has
been installed.
Excel files in the file formats (extensions xlsx, xlsm, etc) saved
in B2 should open in B2TR. PowerPoint files saved in B2 in the new
file formats (extensions pptx, pptm, etc) seem to at least open,
but seem to have issues
with font size, text placement, and other minor issues.
Before installing B2TR therefore, you should save all your files in
the 97-2003 file formats. That means, save all your docx files as
doc (Word), all
your xslx files as xls (Excel) and all your pptx files as ppt
(PowerPoint).
There are a host of other issues you might encounter. I am keeping a
running
list that I will update constantly over the next few days at
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/14/43. I highly suggest to read it
before installing B2TR.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Roady [MVP]]

Hmm, that is indeed a nasty thing :-S

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Yes, I know.
But you aren't necessarily better off if you stored all your files in
the 97-2003 formats. For example, XLS files created in B1/B1TR might not
open in B2TR either.

Patrick Schmid
---------------
http://pschmid.net

That was actually already mentioned from the dogfood builds. The file
format
was/is still under development throughout the BETA as well and except for
OneNote "upgrading" documents from earlier BETAs wouldn't be fully
supported
(which includes "dirtying" it). It was recommended against storing
important
data in the new file format.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
Definitely different. Files created in B1 and B1TR don't open in B2TR
anymore, they actually produce a corrupt file error message. B2TR uses
the XML file formats according to the Ecma draft v1.4, B2 used 1.3. B1TR
and B1 were earlier versions.

Patrick Schmid
---------------
http://pschmid.net

Apparently not, however. Is the file format really different between
B1/B1TR
and B2 or only the version? In Word 97-2003, if you open a Word 6.0/95
doc,
you might be asked if you want to save in the current format, but if you
open, say, a Word 97 file in Word 2003, you don't get any sort of
prompt,
since the file format is the same.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Patrick,

In general, you would be better off using the legacy formats, but relying on the beta for business/mission level documents is still
a risk not recommended by Microsoft for most folks.

If a legacy file created from Office 2007 betas does not reopen in a legacy version of Office or a newer version of Office 2007 beta
then that would be a bug. (It could have been a bug in the 'save as' portion of the older beta, but still a bug).
==========
Yes, I know.
But you aren't necessarily better off if you stored all your files in
the 97-2003 formats. For example, XLS files created in B1/B1TR might not
open in B2TR either.

Patrick Schmid >>
--
I hope this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS to the 2007 Office System

1. Free MS Office 2007 book from MS Press, 213 pages:
http://microsoft.com/learning/office2007/default.mspx#booksfrommspress

2.. Office 2007 Beta 2 Online Test Drive, Downloadable beta,
e-learning courses, doucmentation and movies:
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

3. Send 2007 Office System Beta 2 feedback directly to the MS Office 2007 product team with this feedback tool:
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

4. Try the 2007 OfficeOnline preview website , without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033

b. then visit
http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Rainald Taesler]

As you just made the move right now, you won't be in much trouble.
People who have been using Beta 2 for a while and now got B2TR are
the
ones experiencing most issues.

Seems as if everything worked just fine.
Will have to get used to the new Office design, however.
Don't like it too much so far.
Takes away even more screen real estate than before.
I wonder what will be left on my TabletPC's screen ...

Rainald

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Double Left Click on one of the tabs to hide the ribbon. After doing that,
a left click on one of the tabs will display the ribbon for that tab.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

 

[Beth Melton]

Correct. The majority of the issues that have been encountered are
from files created pre-Beta 2.

Note that those who had Office 2007 prior to Beta 2 were official beta
testers and they were explicitly told files created in the early beta
releases may not be accessible in later releases. I have a few files
I'm unable to open as well but I also saved the important files in the
Word 97 - 2003 format.

If you just used the Save command won't necessarily change the format.
I modify the file a bit, like Suzanne noted, add a space and delete
it, and then use Save As.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Office 2007 Preview Site:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/default.mspx
Office 2007 Community Articles/Tutorials:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/community/article_archive.mspx

TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Double-click a ribbon tab or press ctrl-f1. That will minimize the
ribbon (it stays minimized). You can then use it via single-clicking a
tab. It will then only hover over your document and disappear similar to
a menu again. Toggle the behavior via ctrl-f1 or double-clicking a tab
again.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Patrick,

What you listed would be different variants of the same file format, not a different format (i.e. the details are evolving but the
structure is pretty much the same). It's similar to the RTF spec in that regard in that it changes with each version of Word as
well and to the .doc, etc file formats. New versions of each app may have features not backwards compatible but the file format is
considered to be 'the same'. With betas, it's often the forward (between beta-test versions) compatability that gets to be the
issue.

It would have been nice if MS's 'error' dialogs in TR2 were looking at the headers in the file to be a bit more specific on what
they're seeing as the problem. It might also be an interesting exercise to see if the claims on being able to recover files when
one part breaks from the .---x (zipped) contents would be doable in trying to save the content from a pre B2TR file by moving them
to a new .---x structure.


====================
Definitely different. Files created in B1 and B1TR don't open in B2TR
anymore, they actually produce a corrupt file error message. B2TR uses
the XML file formats according to the Ecma draft v1.4, B2 used 1.3. B1TR
and B1 were earlier versions.

Patrick Schmid >>
--
I hope this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS to the 2007 Office System

1. Free MS Office 2007 book from MS Press, 213 pages:
http://microsoft.com/learning/office2007/default.mspx#booksfrommspress

2.. Office 2007 Beta 2 Online Test Drive, Downloadable beta,
e-learning courses, doucmentation and movies:
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

3. Send 2007 Office System Beta 2 feedback directly to the MS Office 2007 product team with this feedback tool:
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

4. Try the 2007 OfficeOnline preview website , without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033

b. then visit
http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Just to finish up this discussion. The only related "issue" that affects
all users is the "Building Blocks.dotx" file. B2TR setup doesn't replace
this file, as it is considered a user file. In order to get the newest
content for all galleries though, this file needs to be replaced with
its B2TR version. If a user modified the building blocks in B2 (e.g.
galleries), this shouldn't be done though as those modifications will be
lost in the process.
In order to replace the file, close Word and use Start, Run, type
"%appdata%\Microsoft\Document Building Blocks" and delete the file
"Building Blocks.dotx" there. Word will recreate the file automatically
once you open it again and drop-down a gallery.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Pat Garard]

Tried your suggestion - got an error message:

"C:\win....27b\lxbkprpr.dll was loaded, but the
DLLRegisterServer entry point was not found.

This file can not be registered."

vbOkOnly
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

Just a suggestion - I would have thought that re-registering the dll from its
current default location would have worked as well, and might make things
simpler if you need to uninstall that printer later?

regsvr32 "c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser iesf27b"

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>

That's what I thought already ;-)

Search for lxbkprpr.dll and copy it to c:\windows\system32
By default it resides in;
c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\Lexmark_x1100_ser iesf27b

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003


-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Roady,

I have a LeXmark 1185 (all-in-one).

What type of printer do you have?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

-----
"Pat Garard" <apgarard-bigpond:net:au> wrote in message
G'Day Patrick,

Thanks for the Information!

You may remember that I had some issue with OL2007 - most of these
are now resolved.

When I print, I still get warnings about Prop Res DLL not loaded,
but it prints ok.

The Editor seems much improved - as does the rest of Office 2007.

Thanks again!
--
Regards,
Pat Garard
Melbourne, Australia
_______________________

The B2TR patch has some nasty surprises for users in store. The most
important
one being that Word 2007 Beta 2 files saved in the new file formats
(extensions docx, docm, etc) might not open at all once B2TR has
been installed.
Excel files in the file formats (extensions xlsx, xlsm, etc) saved
in B2 should open in B2TR. PowerPoint files saved in B2 in the new
file formats (extensions pptx, pptm, etc) seem to at least open,
but seem to have issues
with font size, text placement, and other minor issues.
Before installing B2TR therefore, you should save all your files in
the 97-2003 file formats. That means, save all your docx files as
doc (Word), all
your xslx files as xls (Excel) and all your pptx files as ppt
(PowerPoint).
There are a host of other issues you might encounter. I am keeping a
running
list that I will update constantly over the next few days at
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/14/43. I highly suggest to read it
before installing B2TR.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Double Left Click on one of the tabs to hide the ribbon. After
doing that, a left click on one of the tabs will display the ribbon
for that tab.

Thanks for the hint, Doug. Had already detected that.
May it's just initial disliking of something dramatically new.

But think the good old ToolBars had there merits and I do not
understand that there is no "compatibilty mode".
I can easily imagine waht will break loose in our offices when the
secretaries and assistents will have to face to new way ...

Billions of workhours, I estimate, to be billed to Seattle ...

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Double-click a ribbon tab or press ctrl-f1. That will minimize the
ribbon (it stays minimized). You can then use it via single-clicking
a
tab. It will then only hover over your document and disappear
similar
to a menu again. Toggle the behavior via ctrl-f1 or double-clicking
a
tab again.

Thanks for your assitance, Patrick!
Had detected that meanwhile (except Ctrl+F1 which for sure my tablet
will love [grrrrh]).

Rainald

 

[Beth Melton]

I think the majority of those who actually knew the applications have
all asked the same thing. I know I absolutely hated it at first. While
the old toolbars have their merits, the new functionally that has been
integrated simply can not be duplicated with the old toolbars.

I don't know if you found this, but Help contains links to interactive
reference guides for the applications. If you know where a favorite
command was located in the Microsoft Office 2003 application, navigate
to the command using the old interface and the interactive command
reference guide will provide information to its new location in a
screen tip. If you need more help, clicking the command will animate
the location in the 2007 Microsoft Office application.

Here's the direct link:
http://officebeta.iponet.net/client...WINWORD&lcid=1033&CTT=3&Origin=HA100625841033

To find it in Help it's located in the TOC under "Getting Help".

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Office 2007 Preview Site:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/default.mspx
Office 2007 Community Articles/Tutorials:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/community/article_archive.mspx

TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Thank you for your reply and the reference.
I will have get used to it whether I like it or not.
"'Maybe it's just a matter of taste' said the monkey when had bitten
ito the piece of soop"

But quite some learning curve for the staff in the office (hopefully
replacing Solitaire for a while <g>).

Thanks again
Rainald