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ced4jets
Word 2004 had a command under the insert menu to insert directly from a scanner. It's gone in 2008. How do I scan into a Word doc? Why is it gone, it was great!
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Curt Laird
Hi,
Unfortunately, this feature was cut for Office 2008. It¹s another casualty
of the VBA removal.
Thanks,
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Microsoft_Gone
No support for twain? I had to go back to Office 2004 as now I can't scan anything. Now that is microsoft progress for you! Losing the ability to scan documents for me outways any reason to upgrade to this.
Kind of reminds me of the upgrade from XP to Vista, yuck
Kind of reminds me of the upgrade from XP to Vista, yuck
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John McGhie
Yup! Sorry: no TWAIN drivers for Mac Office 2008. At least, not yet...
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Michelle
Can you still scan with the scanning software, run OCR software, and then
import into Word for further editing?
import into Word for further editing?
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CyberTaz
Certainly you can, Michelle -
I hope the [mis]statement in the other post didn't mislead you. Just because
Word 2008 won't launch your scanner software & directly acquire the
resultant scan doesn't begin to suggest you can't still take advantage of
scanned material... It's just a bit less convenient
HTH |:>)
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I hope the [mis]statement in the other post didn't mislead you. Just because
Word 2008 won't launch your scanner software & directly acquire the
resultant scan doesn't begin to suggest you can't still take advantage of
scanned material... It's just a bit less convenient
HTH |:>)
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Stephen
Boy this is lame. I was wondering why I couldn't insert a picture directly from TWAIN acquire tonight and after some searching found this. I cannot believe MS would leave out such a feature. Of course I can still get my capture in but that now requires using Image Capture to save to a file and then insert that file within Word. I sincerely hope they add this feature back in a future update. Also would be nice if they speed up the app load time, it sure seems slower than 2004 under Rosetta.
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John McGhie
Hi Stephen:
Yeah. Microsoft's user research discovered that most users did not USE (or
even know about...) the TWAIN functionality in the previous version.
Since all scanners come with suitable software for scanning documents,
Microsoft decided no harm would be done by dropping the TWAIN drivers.
Office 2008 was very much a case of doing as much as they could in the time
available. They did not get to do many of the things they would have liked
to do. Given the fact that research revealed that almost no-one used this
feature, it was one that hit the cutting room floor.
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Yeah. Microsoft's user research discovered that most users did not USE (or
even know about...) the TWAIN functionality in the previous version.
Since all scanners come with suitable software for scanning documents,
Microsoft decided no harm would be done by dropping the TWAIN drivers.
Office 2008 was very much a case of doing as much as they could in the time
available. They did not get to do many of the things they would have liked
to do. Given the fact that research revealed that almost no-one used this
feature, it was one that hit the cutting room floor.
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greentree_uk
I have a customer who is 88, try explaining this to him!
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CyberTaz
Before you come down too hard on MacBU you might have a look at the
following from PC Word (2007) Help:
_______________________________
"What happened to the From Scanner or Camera option for adding pictures to a
document?
The From Scanner or Camera option for adding pictures to a document is not
available in Microsoft Office Word 2007. Instead, you can add pictures from
your camera or scanner by downloading the pictures to your computer first
and then copying them from your computer into Word."
______________________________
It wasn't "left out", it was dropped so I doubt there are any plans to
add it back. You might do some searching (on Google or VersionTracker.com)
to see if there are any Office-compatible Twain Acquire utilities available.
FWIW, scanning directly into a text application rarely renders a quality
result and/or bloats the document with excess pixels, poor color fidelity &
other drawbacks which can't be properly adjusted due to the lack of tools.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
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following from PC Word (2007) Help:
_______________________________
"What happened to the From Scanner or Camera option for adding pictures to a
document?
The From Scanner or Camera option for adding pictures to a document is not
available in Microsoft Office Word 2007. Instead, you can add pictures from
your camera or scanner by downloading the pictures to your computer first
and then copying them from your computer into Word."
______________________________
It wasn't "left out", it was dropped
so I doubt there are any plans toadd it back. You might do some searching (on Google or VersionTracker.com)
to see if there are any Office-compatible Twain Acquire utilities available.
FWIW, scanning directly into a text application rarely renders a quality
result and/or bloats the document with excess pixels, poor color fidelity &
other drawbacks which can't be properly adjusted due to the lack of tools.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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John McGhie
Nope! That's YOUR job
The feature was dropped because barely anyone ever used it.
Teach him how to use his scanner using the software its manufacturer
provided, and he will be happy.
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The feature was dropped because barely anyone ever used it.
Teach him how to use his scanner using the software its manufacturer
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Guest
OMG! I cannot believe you dropped this feature! I have to go back to Word 2004. What a mistake!
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Phillip Jones
Go to help menu then click on feedback give reason why you want or need
this.
If people don't speak up then MS will assume people didn't care for it.
AS a work around using the scanning software that came with your Scanner
to make the can then insert the file or copy and paste.
<rant on>
Adobe still has this feature in all of their latest version of their
products. Don't see why that was so difficult to leave in.
Just shows Microsoft's Commitment to Mac computers. Another way to annoy
us so that we will get fed up and switch to computers from the Dark side.
But that actually backfires, all it does really is make our resolve that
much tougher. years nd years ago when I first started dealing with
computers I could have easily bought Windows PC's but with each stick
and poke by companies like MS at apple, my resolve got tougher.
Now you couldn't give me a PC to use even if you gave me 5 million
dollars to switch. I'd refuse.
I know that the MVP s in order to keep their status as such have to
defend MS. But It get tiresome to be thrown a dried up old ham bone all
the time.
This nonsense about the numbers are their to make it worth their while
is nonsense, When you company makes billions and billions, and billions
of dollars its not going to kill your bottom line to put the same exact
feature set in software for all Platforms. A Dollar made is another
dollar Made.
How many Yachts, Houses, Cars, Trips around the world does any one Board
of Director need. One reason that people don't buy the software is
because the feature are not in there and they make silly assumptions
about people that use Mac's They assume mac are just strictly used to
draw and paint stuff or do Graphics ,video or audio editing.People that
use Mac's run business es also. And more Fortune 500 companies would go
for Macs if there was business software available for the platform.
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this.
If people don't speak up then MS will assume people didn't care for it.
AS a work around using the scanning software that came with your Scanner
to make the can then insert the file or copy and paste.
<rant on>
Adobe still has this feature in all of their latest version of their
products. Don't see why that was so difficult to leave in.
Just shows Microsoft's Commitment to Mac computers. Another way to annoy
us so that we will get fed up and switch to computers from the Dark side.
But that actually backfires, all it does really is make our resolve that
much tougher. years nd years ago when I first started dealing with
computers I could have easily bought Windows PC's but with each stick
and poke by companies like MS at apple, my resolve got tougher.
Now you couldn't give me a PC to use even if you gave me 5 million
dollars to switch. I'd refuse.
I know that the MVP s in order to keep their status as such have to
defend MS. But It get tiresome to be thrown a dried up old ham bone all
the time.
This nonsense about the numbers are their to make it worth their while
is nonsense, When you company makes billions and billions, and billions
of dollars its not going to kill your bottom line to put the same exact
feature set in software for all Platforms. A Dollar made is another
dollar Made.
How many Yachts, Houses, Cars, Trips around the world does any one Board
of Director need. One reason that people don't buy the software is
because the feature are not in there and they make silly assumptions
about people that use Mac's They assume mac are just strictly used to
draw and paint stuff or do Graphics ,video or audio editing.People that
use Mac's run business es also. And more Fortune 500 companies would go
for Macs if there was business software available for the platform.
<rant off>
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John McGhie
Well, "I" didn't drop the feature. Microsoft did that.
In here, you are talking to other users, not "Microsoft".
However, I think their decision to drop that feature is correct. They had
to try to make a driver for every different scanner on the market, and their
generic driver did not offer all the features of some scanners.
This way, you can use the software provided by your particular scanner
manufacturer: so you get to work with all the colours and corrections and
capabilities and features of your scanner.
When you get your file to your Mac, just drag it into your Word document.
It's that simple! You get a better job, and it's easier than the old way.
How bad is that?
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In here, you are talking to other users, not "Microsoft".
However, I think their decision to drop that feature is correct. They had
to try to make a driver for every different scanner on the market, and their
generic driver did not offer all the features of some scanners.
This way, you can use the software provided by your particular scanner
manufacturer: so you get to work with all the colours and corrections and
capabilities and features of your scanner.
When you get your file to your Mac, just drag it into your Word document.
It's that simple! You get a better job, and it's easier than the old way.
How bad is that?
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Phillip Jones
john,
Why do they need to make a driver?
Acrobat uses the installed driver installed in the system.
Its like how printing is done. Its just a a interface to system calls?
No wonder MS dropped it if they are using deferent drivers than what is
installed into the system.
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Why do they need to make a driver?
Acrobat uses the installed driver installed in the system.
Its like how printing is done. Its just a a interface to system calls?
No wonder MS dropped it if they are using deferent drivers than what is
installed into the system.
John said:
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John McGhie
Hi Phillip:
It's the reverse of Printing. You need a TWAIN driver to drive an image
device.
Just as the printer driver needs to tell the printing subsystem about all of
the capabilities of the printer, the TWAIN driver has to inform the scanning
subsystem about all the capabilities of each scanner.
Which means it has to "know" them.
If the scanner manufacturer has provided a TWAIN driver, and the user has
installed it, and Word can ask for it, and the System can find it, it all
works perfectly.
If not, the user gets no pictures and Microsoft gets the blame.
Much better to leave the Scanning feature out and wait for the user and
their scanner to drop a file on the disk where we can see it.
Then we know where it is and what it is, which makes it a lot more reliable
to import it into the document
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It's the reverse of Printing. You need a TWAIN driver to drive an image
device.
Just as the printer driver needs to tell the printing subsystem about all of
the capabilities of the printer, the TWAIN driver has to inform the scanning
subsystem about all the capabilities of each scanner.
Which means it has to "know" them.
If the scanner manufacturer has provided a TWAIN driver, and the user has
installed it, and Word can ask for it, and the System can find it, it all
works perfectly.
If not, the user gets no pictures and Microsoft gets the blame.
Much better to leave the Scanning feature out and wait for the user and
their scanner to drop a file on the disk where we can see it.
Then we know where it is and what it is, which makes it a lot more reliable
to import it into the document
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Phillip Jones
Okay but inserting images in Office is no walking in the park. if you
use certain types . PDF, jpeg that tend to come out fuzzy looking. On
all my computers PNG seems to be the best so far as images go.
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use certain types . PDF, jpeg that tend to come out fuzzy looking. On
all my computers PNG seems to be the best so far as images go.
John said:Hi Phillip:
It's the reverse of Printing. You need a TWAIN driver to drive an image
device.
Just as the printer driver needs to tell the printing subsystem about all of
the capabilities of the printer, the TWAIN driver has to inform the scanning
subsystem about all the capabilities of each scanner.
Which means it has to "know" them.
If the scanner manufacturer has provided a TWAIN driver, and the user has
installed it, and Word can ask for it, and the System can find it, it all
works perfectly.
If not, the user gets no pictures and Microsoft gets the blame.
Much better to leave the Scanning feature out and wait for the user and
their scanner to drop a file on the disk where we can see it.
Then we know where it is and what it is, which makes it a lot more reliable
to import it into the document
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Hi Phillip:
Inserting the image is simply a matter of dragging it into the document, in
Word 2008.
The "Fuzzy" is a bug they are working on...
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Inserting the image is simply a matter of dragging it into the document, in
Word 2008.
The "Fuzzy" is a bug they are working on...
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George de Gooijer
My Xerox 6115 has a great solution for scanning (take a look at <http://www.office.xerox.com/userdoc/P6115MFP/qst/qst_usingscanning_mac.htm)>: you just open your WORD application, and than click on 'import from scanner or camera.
No other software provided.
The reason I bought this software was it's supposed completeness. Yes I will blame you if it goes wrong, but I assume it does not, because that was the whole point of coming to you in the first place: a well organised, experienced company that makes life easy for me, takes work out of my hands, to let me focus on the really important things.
No other software provided.
The reason I bought this software was it's supposed completeness. Yes I will blame you if it goes wrong, but I assume it does not, because that was the whole point of coming to you in the first place: a well organised, experienced company that makes life easy for me, takes work out of my hands, to let me focus on the really important things.
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John McGhie
Hi George:
Well, it's really important that you don't upgrade above Word 2004 then
Because that one won't work in Word 2008.
It's an excellent device, but it relies on the TWAIN interface to work.
Word 2008 does not have a TWAIN interface.
In Word 2008, you will need to scan to your hard disk, then insert the image
from there.
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Well, it's really important that you don't upgrade above Word 2004 then
Because that one won't work in Word 2008.
It's an excellent device, but it relies on the TWAIN interface to work.
Word 2008 does not have a TWAIN interface.
In Word 2008, you will need to scan to your hard disk, then insert the image
from there.
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