Top posting in MS Newsgroups

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Paul

This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to. I am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have to cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig below the
material I'm posting to?
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Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501
 
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Paul

I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


JoAnn Paules said:
Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Paul said:
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to. I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501
 
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JoAnn Paules

Can't help you. I use OE and WM.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Paul said:
I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just
a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google
Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no
URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


JoAnn Paules said:
Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Paul said:
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and
the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to.
I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have
to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig
below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501
 
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Gordon Bentley-Mix

Paul,

If you use the Microsoft Office Communities interface
(http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...osoft.public.word.docmanagement&lang=en&cr=US)
rather that Google Reader, it should resolve the problem with the location
of your signature. And if you use Windows Live Mail (which is the
replacement for Outlook Express), then you can flag threads to watch - and
threads that you start are flagged automatically.

Setting up the newsreader functionality isn't difficult Windows Live Mail. I
think the help might give the necessary details, but it's probably not
necessary. I don't know if WLM will insert your signature automatically
though. It probably will, but I can't be bothered trying to find out how; I
just have a little text file that I copy and paste from instead. The only
downside for me is that WLM doesn't insert the little MVP logo next to my
posts the way the web interface does. Heartbreaking, aye? ;-P
--
Cheers!

Gordon Bentley-Mix
Word MVP

Uninvited email contact will be marked as SPAM and ignored. Please post all
follow-ups to the newsgroup.


Paul said:
I use Google Reader. Not sure how to use RSS to get updates for my
threads.
I'm really not interested in seeing General Questions forum updated...just
a
thread that I start. I did copy/paste the thread URL into Google
Reader's
Add a Feed option but it didn't see anything.... said something like no
URL
was found....
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


JoAnn Paules said:
Dump the horrible web interface and use a newsreader or something like
Outlook Express/Windows Mail.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Paul said:
This is the only newsgroup I participate in, where the signature and
the
cursor in the reply are placed on top of the post you are replying to.
I
am
accessing this via the MS website. I find it a bit cumbersome to have
to
cut
my sig, then paste it below the text I am replying to. Is there another
way
to access these newsgroups, or at least, another way to get my sig
below
the
material I'm posting to?
--
Paul

MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501
 
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Graham Mayor

We have all managed quite happily with top posting in the Word forums since
long before others started to take feeds from the NNTP server.
Some pedants still prefer to bottom post, but then that simply means that
those of us who answer the questions (and who don't on the whole use the web
portals) have to wade through reams of old stuff to get at the latest
contribution. When it is at the top (which is where you are being invited to
write) it is the first thing that we see. So bottom post if you must, but
don't be too surprised if your contributions are sometimes overlooked.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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Paul

Graham if this is the norm here that's fine. I prefer to compose (and read)
my emails with top posting, that's for sure. I have seen a few others here do
bottom-posting, and I was under the impression that this was part of
"netiquette." But as long as I"ve got at least one MVP who is a militant
bottom-poster I think I'll survive around here.

--
Paul

Bottom-posting and proud of it
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501
 
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Paul

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


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Graham Mayor

I don't think anyone here is that bothered - life is too short to worry
about such things :)

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion, I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by >
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
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Stefan Blom

Personally, I prefer top-posting too.

Occasionally, though, I find it easier to reply "inline" if I'm answering a
long, complex message and I want to comment on several different things in
that message.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
 
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grammatim

Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by >, so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.
 
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grammatim

That must be something going on at your end, because I get the >'s
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly; yours
(and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

That must be something going on at your end, because I get the >'s
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?
 
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Beth Melton

It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows Live
Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you have
set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have: Plain
Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap at 76, and
the Indent Original text with ">" option selected.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of >> in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
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Beth Melton

Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. <g,d &r>
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
 
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Beth Melton

For starters it has its own proofing tools. That was a big plus in my book.
I was copy/pasting to Word when necessary. I held out on installing
third-party proofing tools until Microsoft provided an alternative for
Windows XP users. Part of it, of course, was sheer stubbornness but it also
kept the issue fresh in my mind so I could mention it every chance I got.
;-)

It also has many of the webnews features, such as the ratings, voting, etc
so you can log on and see them if you want. I was using them until it kept
eating my posts. Very frustrating to discover several days worth of posts
missing!

The Reading Pane can be displayed on the right like Outlook. I scroll a lot
less now, especially for the bottom postings. There's a few other new
features but I don't use any of them for the newsgroups.

And, of course, it appears it quotes replies property.

The one thing I don't like is my munged Reply To email address isn't used on
posts, as it is in OE, but I resolved that by using a munged email address
instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
 

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