You will be better off in FP anyway!
See you on the FP newsgroup if you need help.
|I cant publish this in the Publish to Web. I've tried a million times and
| read the instructions more times then I can count on my fingers and toes.
I'm
| through with Publisher-I hate this program and I feel like this was a HUGE
| waste of my time. I've already started recreating my first page on Front
Page.
| Thank you David for your patience and the help you have tried to give to
me
| - I really appreciated that.
|
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > Meg,
| >
| > Here is another article on publishing your site via HTTP if you are
still
| > having problems understanding the process.
| >
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=428
| >
| > DavidF
| >
| > | > > I read your reply very carefully and in turn I have a few questions
for
| > you.
| > > 1st thing I wanted to say is I never sucessfully published with FTP. I
| > > couldnt get anything to go through. So I know you said that would
corrupt
| > my
| > > FP extensions if I published with FTP. I remember on David B's
website-he
| > > said you could check and make sure those FP extensions are in place.
So I
| > did
| > > - and I got the Front Page extensions notice when I typed in:
| > >
http://www.mesa-materials.com/_vti_inf.html
| > > Sssoooo --- does that mean that I can or cannot use the HTTP way of
| > > publishing?
| > > Second - I don't know how to 'upload' my file that I published to my
hard
| > > drive folder to the FTP location. That's has probably got to be a new
set
| > of
| > > instructions for me. I think FTP is a little over my head at this
point.
| > >
| > >
| > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Here are a couple Microsoft articles that might help understand the
| > > > uploading/publishing process:
| > > >
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011053521033.aspx
| > > >
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011186811033.aspx
| > > >
| > > > DavidF
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Tomatoes...potatoes. The terminology can be very confusing, but at
| > least
| > > > you
| > > > > aren't calling your whole web site a web page anymore ;-)
| > > > >
| > > > > I wouldn't worry about the overall size of your Publisher file
given
| > that
| > > > > you have 21? pages, and most of them have a lot of images. It is
easy
| > to
| > > > see
| > > > > how that could add up to a 35 MB file. The good news is that your
| > > > index.htm
| > > > > file is now the size it should be, so your problem with a 10 MB
| > index.htm
| > > > > file probably was because you were using the Save As a Web Page to
| > produce
| > > > > your HTML files. That method works for Pub 2000, but not 2003.
| > > > >
| > > > > What I meant by the HTML folder was the folder you created on your
| > hard
| > > > > drive to publish to, that contained both the index.htm file, and a
| > > > subfolder
| > > > > of your other pages and images, if you opted to use a subfolder.
At
| > this
| > > > > point, I don't think the size of all those files is too important,
as
| > you
| > > > > have now reduced your image sizes, and your site is now ready to
be
| > > > > published/uploaded to the web...yeah!!!
| > > > >
| > > > > I don't remember if you have a form on your page or not, but do
| > remember
| > > > > that you used FTP publishing at one time. This means that if you
do
| > have a
| > > > > form, the FP extensions will probably have to be reinstalled by
your
| > host,
| > > > > as the FTP process is likely to corrupt them. So for now you can't
use
| > the
| > > > > HTTP uploading protocol...connect to your site via the FTP tool
you
| > use,
| > > > > delete the index.htm file and the subfolder you uploaded before.
Then
| > > > upload
| > > > > the new index.htm file and subfolder that you published earlier to
the
| > > > > folder on your hard drive. If that works well, and you have a
form,
| > then
| > > > you
| > > > > will have to have your host reinstall the extensions, and upload
using
| > > > HTTP
| > > > > from that point on.
| > > > >
| > > > > If you have problems this time, note each specific step you take,
and
| > any
| > > > > error message, and post back...probably to David Bartosik's
attention.
| > And
| > > > > though you have read his articles many times, I would review them
one
| > more
| > > > > time before you start the uploading process.
| > > > >
| > > > > Good luck...let us know what happens.
| > > > >
| > > > > DavidF
| > > > >
| > > > > | > > > > > 1) Design Gallery - My Objects: No duplicate images or anything
of
| > that
| > > > > sort
| > > > > > - the only thing is the navigation bar I use at the bottom and
the
| > side.
| > > > > > 2) All my images are jpg.
| > > > > > 3) Publishing... ahhh.. this is were I get a little bit
confused. As
| > I
| > > > > > stated earlier, everytime I use the publish to web and follow
| > > > instructions
| > > > > as
| > > > > > listed on David's website, I get the same error. So just now I
tried
| > > > your
| > > > > > suggestion of publishing to a folder on my computer. Then I
opened
| > up
| > > > the
| > > > > > folder I put it in (created a new one) and checked the size of
| > Index -
| > > > > 50.3
| > > > > > KB. Now that I've got that published on my computer in a
folder -
| > how do
| > > > I
| > > > > > then tranfer that to the web?
| > > > > > As for your last question about the HTML folder... I'm confused.
| > > > > > Maybe this does just filter down to the fact that I'm not
publishing
| > > > this
| > > > > > right?
| > > > > >
| > > > > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > > > > >
| > > > > > > Another quick question. When you said your index.htm file was
10
| > MB,
| > > > > were
| > > > > > > you perhaps talking about the HTML folder??? What is the
index.htm
| > > > > > > file...and what is the HTML folder sizes?
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > DavidF
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > | > > > > > > > Hi Meg,
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > I am glad to see David Bartosik has jumped in, as he is the
| > expert
| > > > > around
| > > > > > > > here and should be able to figure this out.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > But here are some thoughts. First as to your publisher file
| > size...
| > > > > Open
| > > > > > > the
| > > > > > > > Design Gallery and check under My Objects. You may find a
lot of
| > > > > copies of
| > > > > > > > the different images you have used which could be adding to
your
| > > > total
| > > > > > > file
| > > > > > > > size. You can delete these copies to reduce your Publisher
file
| > > > size.
| > > > > You
| > > > > > > > are using JPG or GIF images, right?
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > While your images are still a bit large, they are small
| > enough...and
| > > > > they
| > > > > > > > are not large enough to explain a 10 MB index.htm page. In
your
| > > > > response
| > > > > > > to
| > > > > > > > David Bartosik, you said that you published your HTML files
by
| > "Save
| > > > > as a
| > > > > > > > Web page"? David can probably correct me here, but I think
that
| > > > > produces
| > > > > > > > "unfiltered" HTML coded pages, which are much larger, and
could
| > > > > account
| > > > > > > for
| > > > > > > > part of your problem. Try publishing to your folder on your
hard
| > > > drive
| > > > > > > again
| > > > > > > > using the "Publish to the Web" function, and report back as
the
| > size
| > > > > of
| > > > > > > the
| > > > > > > > index.htm file after doing this.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > DavidF
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > I made a few more changes.
| > > > > > > > > The pictures that were over 100 KB i downsized to 60 - 80
KB
| > > > > instead. I
| > > > > > > > > again selected the compress all pictures in Publisher and
| > selected
| > > > > to
| > > > > > > > > compress to Web which is 96 dpi.
| > > > > > > > > Then I republished my website (deleted the former from the
| > hard
| > > > > drive-no
| > > > > > > > VML
| > > > > > > > > or PNG checkmarks on the options). I checked the HTML size
and
| > the
| > > > > index
| > > > > > > > page
| > > > > > > > > is 10 MB - still too large and loads way too slow still.
| > > > > > > > > The publisher file only went down to 37 MB.
| > > > > > > > > I don't know how I can downsize it smaller than that.
| > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > "Meg B" wrote:
| > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the confusion. As in webpage (should have said
| > > > website)
| > > > > I
| > > > > > > mean
| > > > > > > > 21
| > > > > > > > > > different 'pages' that compose my website.
| > > > > > > > > > 1) The publisher file in total is the one that is 38 MB.
| > > > > > > > > > 2) Since the publisher file is so big I haven't even
| > bothered
| > > > > trying
| > > > > > > to
| > > > > > > > > > republish the website.
| > > > > > > > > > 3) Haven't republished
| > > > > > > > > > 4) I know to unclick the rely on VML and PNG and when I
| > > > republish
| > > > > > > those
| > > > > > > > > > options will not be checked.
| > > > > > > > > > 5) I did the compress on all images in the document.
| > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > Last, I did as you suggested and went through the
graphic
| > > > > managager.
| > > > > > > > Most of
| > > > > > > > > > the pictures are within the 40 - 60 KB range, I counted
7
| > that
| > > > go
| > > > > over
| > > > > > > > 100
| > > > > > > > > > and two or three that go up to 150 KB. 70% of them have
a
| > dpi of
| > > > > at
| > > > > > > > least a
| > > > > > > > > > hundred to 115 dpi. However, considering that most of
them
| > are
| > > > > small
| > > > > > > > images -
| > > > > > > > > > does it make any sense why the file would be 38 MB?
| > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > Meg,
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > Some questions:
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > You are mixing up the terminology which makes it hard
to
| > help
| > > > > you.
| > > > > > > > When you
| > > > > > > > > > > say your "webpage" is 38.1 MB, what do you mean? Are
you
| > > > talking
| > > > > > > about
| > > > > > > > your
| > > > > > > > > > > Publisher file, or one page, or the total of your HTML
| > files?
| > > > > > > > Specifically:
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > 1. How big is your Publisher file?
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > 2. How big is the HTML folder if you publish to your
hard
| > > > drive,
| > > > > and
| > > > > > > > did you
| > > > > > > > > > > delete all the files within that folder before you
| > republished
| > > > > your
| > > > > > > > site,
| > > > > > > > > > > after optimizing your images?
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > 3. How big is the index.htm file within the HTML
folder?
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > 4. Did you go to Tools > Options > Web tab and untick
Rely
| > on
| > > > > > > > VML...and
| > > > > > > > > > > untick Allow PNG...?
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > 5. Did you use the compress "all" images function as a
| > final
| > > > > step
| > > > > > > > before
| > > > > > > > > > > producing your HTML files?
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > If you didn't do 4 and 5, then do that, save your
file,
| > and
| > > > then
| > > > > > > > republish
| > > > > > > > > > > your HTML files to your hard drive and answer
questions
| > 1 - 3
| > > > > again.
| > > > > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > > > > And now to trouble shoot one page at a time, open your
