You need to change the paste special

[Greg Maxey]

Maybe your difficulty is in understanding simple English.

PUT THE PASTE SPECIAL UNFORMATTED BUTTON ON YOUR QAT. (In Word. No
idea what to do in Outlook, but you asked in a Word forum.)








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Are there no curtesy requirements for posting here? A good teacher
recognizes when his students are having difficulty with the material,
and pitches his approach appropriately. The teacher should never
shout!

You learned this little jewel of politness where?

Oh, and this time you did! Like most MVPs, you simply called it
"QAT."

 

[Greg Maxey]

Thanks Beth.

Others have suggested this. I understand there are ways to permanently
disable formatted pasting (which I don't want to do) and macros/QAT things I
can do to expose the options. This is no mystery to me. I simply want
"pasting without formatting" to be in a context (right click) menu next to
"past with formatting." Other applications do this and it is remarkably
useful.

The dozens of other words in my original post which don't convey this simple
suggestion were designed to 1) vent a little, and 2) get the fanboys wound up
because that's usually pretty funny.

I acheived both goals .








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MyHandsy,

Hats off for the spanking that you have handed Peter here. I haven't
read through the entire thread, but I've seen enough to see him in
typical arrogant form and you handling him quite nicely. I am
appalled and certainly shaken by his boorish behaviour. Like Woodrow
F. Call, you don't seem to like rude behaviour in a man. I sure wish
you had a horse and bullwhip ;-)

I posted some tips for customizing shortcut menus in Word2007. You
might be able to apply them to add your preferred commands to a right
click menu: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Word2007_SC_Menu_Programatically.htm

 

[Beth Melton]

As noted, in Office 2010 and you'll find "Keep text only" (which is plain
text) and "Keep Source Formatting" (and other pasting options depending on
the application) on the shortcut menu and in Word and Outlook there's a
option for setting your Paste Defaults as well. Oh, and there's a Live
Preview for the Paste options if that's of any interest to you.

Oh, and I hope you achieved a third goal which is Microsoft already
implemented your suggestion. ;-)

~Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

MyHandsy,

Hats off for the spanking that you have handed Peter here.  I haven't
read through the entire thread, but I've seen enough to see him in
typical arrogant form and you handling him quite nicely.  I am
appalled and certainly shaken by his boorish behaviour.  Like Woodrow
F. Call, you don't seem to like rude behaviour in a man.  I sure wish
you had a horse and bullwhip ;-)

It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would
have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it
"getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with
you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped
whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such
"spanking" appears above.)

 

[MyHandsy]

"...we are right and you are wrong"

LOL! This is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about, and why I
structured my first post the way I did. Well spoken sir!

Well, since you seem to want to pursue the point, what you've written is a
contradiction. You've admitted that in "very rare instances" MS employees do,
in fact, post here. Yet the next sentence asserts that "everyone" who posts
here is not an MS employee. Which is it? Sometimes, or never? Logic dictates
that it can't be both.

I am merely stating that I don't believe this forum is free from MS official
comment, which you have agreed with. Practically speaking, the general tone
of the responses is what I would expect from a Microsoft representative
because they've been consistent with the "we're right, the user is wrong"
posture Microsoft seems to take in general. Thus, employee or not, it looks
like a duck and sounds like a duck...

IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, which is clearly the only one you've ever
looked at, we are right and you are wrong.

to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within
Microsoft.'"
If this is true (not likely)

It is true. In the very rare instances when a MS employee posts here, you
will see "[MSFT]" after the posting name. These NGs are provided by MS for
peer-to-peer support, and everyone who posts here is a volunteer, not a MS
employee.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

Yes it is; But then the UI would be unusable because it would be nothing
but
buttons and useless crap that no one needs (a state which Word is
approaching
already without incorporating all the whims in the universe)

I think adding a simple "paste without formatting" context menu item is
far
from exotic, as evidenced by several other applications which deploy it in
that way.

Peter Daniels (you know, the "nice and helpful" one who didn't take my
post
to a personal level at all) noted that "No one here is 'within
Microsoft.'"
If this is true (not likely) then the users of this forum have done a
remarkable job emulating Microsoft's general stance on their products;
"Our
products are perfect. Let us help you understand why your desires are
inadequate."

All I suggested was that microsoft add a simple context menu item. That's
really all I am suggesting. I added some verbal flare because I love how
fanboys on forums like this get all wound up over nothing... seriously;
thank
you all for much laughter!

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

It is not possible to cater for the individual whims of every user, so
one
of the good things about Word is that it is easily customised to suit
individual user preferences. Even with Word 2007 is is not that difficult
to
add a command to the ribbon, so if you want particular paste commands
there,
you can have them. Similarly you can add items of your choice to the
right
context button, or even simpler, you can add commands to the QAT (Quick
Access Toolbar) as suggested by Peter.

However as this is a question referring to the Outlook editor which is
not
Word and which uses different vba procedures, you would be better asking
your question about programming the editor in an Outlook forum.

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
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MyHandsy wrote:
Ahhh... I love how people focus on me or my particular situation and
not the essence of my point. This tendency is truly the source of
endless hours of forum entertainment!

My point is this:
I sometimes want to post with formatting (like a table from excel),
but usually not. The formatting option is easy, the non-formatting
option is not and it needs to be. Therefore, setting a permanent
option deep within the bowels of Word misses the point of what I am
trying to suggest.

I want/need the option to be on-the-fly... as in the case with
products like "Thunderbird." Adding a context menu item is not hard,
and the current context menu isn't very large, so there is literally
no reason it could not be added. It would look fine and would appease
many people. Those who don't care could happily ignore it (and
proceed to insert all the clip-art they want, since people who paste
with formatting all the time are just those kinds of people).

In point of fact; I am referring to Outlook 2007 actually but, since
it's using word for the editor, Outlook is not the right product to
criticize (at least not for this part).

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

No one here is "within Microsoft."

You don't bother to say what version of Word you use, but you can
simply add the "Paste Unformatted" command as a button on your QAT
(Word2007) or on whichever toolbar(s) you choose (Word2003), using
the Customize procedure.

On Aug 7, 11:04 am, MyHandsy <[email protected]>
wrote:
I am (somewhat) sure someone within Microsoft is concerned about the
usability of Office. In particular, I am referring to the Word
component. As it turns out, Word is quite bad at making specially
formatted items look normal, and it is almost never the case that I
even wanted it to try.

So, why do you people think it's OK to bury the "past special"
option? In order to paste something as simply text, I have to get
it into the clipboard and then go back to word (keystroke) select
the past menu (mouse movement and click) select paste special
(mouse movement and click) select "unformatted text" (mouse
movement and click) then click "ok" (mouse movement and click). Not
acceptable. I am surprised you haven't been sued for causing CTDs
for this feature alone. Four mouse movements, four clicks, and a
keystroke is very bad for something that is routinely used.

On the bright side, it is far faster for me to open notepad (mouse
movement and click), paste (keystroke) select all (keystroke) and
copy (keystroke), and go back to Word and paste (keystroke). One
mouse movement and four (consecutive) keystrokes... hundreds of
dollars for the office suite and I have to rely on notepad to
launder my clipboard items?

Whatever data you've collected suggesting that it's better to make
it difficult to paste just the text is just wrong. There is
absolutely no excuse for a "paste as plain text" option to be
missing from the context menu in Word. If there is a religious war
going on inside Microsoft preventing this from happening, please
fire a lot of people.

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[MyHandsy]

Are you twelve yet? If you're only eleven, then you're precocious. If
you're an adult, get a life.

I retract my comment about you taking things to a personal level. Clearly,
you're objective and constructive

 

[MyHandsy]

It's perfectly obvious that you haven't read the thread, or you would
have seen "MyHandsy" bragging about his own nastiness (he calls it
"getting the fanboys wound up," whatever that means.) As I did with
you, I answered him in his own style. (Though you seem to have snipped
whatever it was you were congratulating him for. At least, no such
"spanking" appears above.)

You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that,
no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner
to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is
called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms .

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

And you, MyHandsy, are a troll, on whom we have already wasted more than
enough time. If you have a question about how to do something in Word, we
will be happy to try to find a solution for you (though you might want to
choose a different screen name so as not to prejudice those with long
memories), but if you just want to pick a fight, as seems to be the case,
then please take it elsewhere.

Greg and Peter, please do NOT respond further. It sets a bad example and is
discouraging to others who have actual questions and need our help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

 

[MyHandsy]

Awwww, c'mon. it was just getting fun! Peter was about to start shouting again!

Oh well... I consider being given the title "Troll" from any MS Office
product forum to be a badge of honor. So; Thank you.

 

[Beth Melton]

Greg and Peter, please do NOT respond further. It sets a bad example and
is discouraging to others who have actual questions and need our help.

Agreed. Besides, the suggestion submitted has been implemented in Office
2010 so there's no sense in continuing the discussion.

~Beth Melton

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

You, Mr Daniels, are a fanboy. That means you seem to believe a priori that,
no matter what the topic might be, Microsoft is right and the opinion coutner
to Microsoft is wrong. Your emotional state with regard to this post is
called "wound up". Hope this clears up the confusion in terms .

You have obviously never read any of my other postings in other
threads.

As you snipped when you "repeated" my words, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
you are wrong and everyone else is right.